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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 15:36:00 GMT
Reason for last post is how much I've already learnt since attending this forum. Often thru shared links. I follow Richard grannon on you tube an never new what a narcissist was before this forum. It has helped me deal with a work colleague that always left me dazed and confused after any dealings with her.
I want to learn as much as I can to help heal myself and there are a lot of wise people on this forum, will continue to take what I need and leave the rest, don't want to have to validate myself, or defend my voice as I'm only just finding it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 15:39:50 GMT
Insinuating people have a personality disorder because you don't like their personality...
As Juniper already said, your post reads (from my perspective anyway) as grandiose. We all display N traits. We are all mirrors. You might not accept it and that's fine. I don't like the way your post reads, it makes you sound abrasive - does that make you emotionally abusive? No. The witch hunt is not helpful, if you want to leave then leave, if you want to stay, then stay.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 15:51:03 GMT
Insinuating people have a personality disorder because you don't like their personality... As Juniper already said, your post reads (from my perspective anyway) as grandiose. We all display N traits. We are all mirrors. You might not accept it and that's fine. I don't like the way your post reads, it makes you sound abrasive - does that make you emotionally abusive? No. The witch hunt is not helpful, if you want to leave then leave, if you want to stay, then stay. Don't get it going again please. If a person felt set apon and bullied then that's how they truly felt, and they chose to leave enough said.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 16:00:41 GMT
Insinuating people have a personality disorder because you don't like their personality... As Juniper already said, your post reads (from my perspective anyway) as grandiose. We all display N traits. We are all mirrors. You might not accept it and that's fine. I don't like the way your post reads, it makes you sound abrasive - does that make you emotionally abusive? No. The witch hunt is not helpful, if you want to leave then leave, if you want to stay, then stay. Don't get it going again please. If a person felt set apon and bullied then that's how they truly felt, and they chose to leave enough said. If they chose to leave, then that's really their decision, but I am still entitled to share my perspective on an open forum.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 16:15:45 GMT
This stuff happens in the real world so if people can learn to deal with what is posted here it can arm you out in the real world. This is just a forum with strangers. Dont take it personal. If a forum post triggers one so bad, there are underlying issues, its not the forum post. Something needs to be dealt with. If anything I would think it can help one with their triggers because many of us dont have a bunch of people in our real life to talk about these things. It can help you handle what is thrown your way and learn from the triggers/projections. It can make you see things from another perspective even if you dont agree with it or think its ok. I dont know, I landed here dealing with an avoidant and Im securely attached so I just may see it different than others. Not many secures here... I see the forum as more beneficial than anything toxic.
I can understand when someone wants to walk away from this forum though, you need to do what you need to do that is best for you.
To add: I linger around as I still learn things here and I like forums so I pop in. I hope I can help others at times being securely attached. Im a helper, its just part of who I am.
When my late husband first got sober he was AA and attending an AA detox and rehab centre for 6 months. He use to take me to open meetings with him, I learnt a lot in those rooms and met some amazing people. In his early recovery he use to come head to head with some of the old timers 20 plus yrs sober but some as sick as the day they walked in the rooms. He use to say to me early on nothing triggers him to wanting a drink as much as listening to some of the ego's in these fking rooms. The more he focused on really getting well and secure and right with his higher power working his steps and helping others the more he became unaffected by some of the stuck sick people in those rooms, they no longer effected him, he new they still weren't well regardless of how many years tokens they had collected. His recovery showed real growth because he no longer reacted or got effected by others with many many years of sobriety but acted like dry drunks. I am in early recovery but already react less to negative effects people have on me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 16:15:54 GMT
Insinuating people have a personality disorder because you don't like their personality... As Juniper already said, your post reads (from my perspective anyway) as grandiose. We all display N traits. We are all mirrors. You might not accept it and that's fine. I don't like the way your post reads, it makes you sound abrasive - does that make you emotionally abusive? No. The witch hunt is not helpful, if you want to leave then leave, if you want to stay, then stay. I completely agree with you. I see a condescending tone against the very people she is wanting to "protect". Using words like "anxious ones", "naïve" and "sad" is arrogant. They have deleted their accounts yet keep coming back, posting and storming off again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 17:03:20 GMT
Insinuating people have a personality disorder because you don't like their personality... As Juniper already said, your post reads (from my perspective anyway) as grandiose. We all display N traits. We are all mirrors. You might not accept it and that's fine. I don't like the way your post reads, it makes you sound abrasive - does that make you emotionally abusive? No. The witch hunt is not helpful, if you want to leave then leave, if you want to stay, then stay. I completely agree with you. I see a condescending tone against the very people she is wanting to "protect". Using words like "anxious ones", "naïve" and "sad" is arrogant. They have deleted their accounts yet keep coming back, posting and storming off again. Last post - for the benefit of those I want to help. I’m not surprised by this response as @mary was one of those that targeted me. Am I bothered? No - because she and the poster above are again accusing me of labelling someone a narc, which if you read properly you would see I stated that was exactly NOT what I was doing. Anxious / naive - both what I was for years and years and I suffered immensely from being taken advantage of because if it. Until I learnt and changed. Sad - because I hate to see others going through what I did and not being aware of it. Haters gonna hate, controllers gonna (try to) control. Whilst Jeb’s Info is excellent, I got more value / lessons from real life and valuable teachers such as Richard G than from the members of the forum - which is dominated by a closed, dysfunctional group replaying their attachment models. What do they say? If (certain) people make you feel bad, especially about yourself, then walk away. They’re not worth it. APs especially, remember this.
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Post by faithopelove on Nov 17, 2018 17:09:07 GMT
I completely agree with you. I see a condescending tone against the very people she is wanting to "protect". Using words like "anxious ones", "naïve" and "sad" is arrogant. They have deleted their accounts yet keep coming back, posting and storming off again. Last post - for the benefit of those I want to help. I’m not surprised by this response as @mary was one of those that targeted me. Am I bothered? No - because she and the poster above are again accusing me of labelling someone a narc, which if you read properly you would see I stated that was exactly NOT what I was doing. Anxious / naive - both what I was for years and years and I suffered immensely from being taken advantage of because if it. Until I learnt and changed. Sad - because I hate to see others going through what I did and not being aware of it. Haters gonna hate, controllers gonna (try to) control. Whilst Jeb’s Info is excellent, I got more value / lessons from real life and valuable teachers such as Richard G than from the members of the forum - which is dominated by a closed, dysfunctional group replaying their attachment models. What do they say? If (certain) people make you feel bad, especially about yourself, then walk away. They’re not worth it. APs especially, remember this. Your message to “anxious ones” as being too nice and naive was a condescending view bc you make the assumption we are all the same and are all equally wounded as you once were without taking into account our individuality or personal progress on our journey. Same attachment style but different experiences, personalities, strengths and challenges to each AP here and out in the “real world.”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 17:18:21 GMT
group hug! with your consent, of course.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 17:31:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 19:03:07 GMT
To cater to all our differing proximity needs omg hahahaha! yussss
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 19:37:50 GMT
What happened was bullying, here's a link about cyberbullying chataboutyou.com/online-forum-bullyBullies use unsubstantiated personal attacks to denigrate their victims. - Bullies hate being challenged and they hate losing - Bullies hunt in packs - Bullies are afraid of strength.-
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:03:14 GMT
jbmc, I'm sorry you feel that way. It's all really just information we can use - how I react, how you react. What I see in you, what you see in me. If you don't like the 'feel' of the forum, maybe this just is not the right place for you if you would prefer some kind of a safer structure in place, but I feel that in this forum, mostly people are free to belong as they already are, not always comfortably as others challenge us, but sometimes belonging feels like that because we don't all share the same reality or value structure, right? That's what's so great about it here. When the number one casualty of trauma is vulnerability, and communication between the insecure styles suffers in ways that confuse the heck out of everyone, places like this make such a difference because it's where we can hear other perspectives from people who have done the work (or a good deal of it). It's in risking rupture that we tell the truth as we see it - I've seen ruptures and repairs in this forum. Risking rupture imo is an important part of emotional availability. I don't see any bullies here, just strong characters who risk rupture to tell their personal truth. Also... it's a forum man. I wish people would stop trying to police forums - I could understand if something truly insidious was going down. You don't get to have intimate conversations like this about our deepest wounds and not trigger anybody, I don't see how that is possible.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:05:58 GMT
I'm sorry bloom - I don't know what you're talking about. But it was bullying plain and simple. it was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2018 20:10:26 GMT
I'm sorry bloom - I don't know what you're talking about. But it was bullying plain and simple. it was wrong. How do you propose things be handled?
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