mads
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Post by mads on Jul 4, 2020 17:24:55 GMT
Hi all, so I had posted previously about issues with my FA boyfriend. I am also FA. He is more DA. A big problem between us now is my feeling stashed. He made plans with friends this weekend (not including me) but then also tried to make plans in between to see me (alone, at my place). It’s hurtful to me and I don’t know how to react to it besides not talking to him right now. He already knows I am upset and I already made other plans with my friends.. who will ask me where he is. I know after this weekend is over he’s going to be trying to see me and pretend like everything is all good.. when it isn’t. Do other people face this problem? I’m not ok continuing to feel compartmentalized in his life. I don’t really care that he hasn’t introduced me to any family, but the friends thing really bothers me.
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Post by mads on Jul 4, 2020 17:35:05 GMT
I just want to add that my FA always says he doesn’t do this to hurt me, etc. but it does. Someone on Reddit told me it was abusive, because it was gaslighting behavior.. thoughts?
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Post by kittygirl on Jul 4, 2020 18:33:12 GMT
mads-I tend to be a big "compartmentalizer" and I can see why this is painful. I have no idea how your ex thinks, but I can tell you one of the things that is huge, HUGE for me is that I want to feel like a) I have a private life that is my own and JUST AS IMPORTANTLY b) my partner has a private life that is their own and that freedom, to me, is actually showing them love. This is actually one of the top 5 things to me in a relationship and so I always want them to feel safe to have a life outside of the relationship where I am not going to be intruding on that in any way (haha I am even weird about following them on social media and stuff! Want them to feel like they aren't being monitored and I expect that same treatment back). I only bring this up not in any way to excuse it, but to maybe help you see that the intentions can be totally and completely innocent though not very conducive to a good relationship. Now his intentions may be similar or may be different (I know some people like to keep friends and partners separate as a way of keeping the person at more of a distance (I am also guilty of this) or because they are even embarrassed of their own friends. Who knows what the reasons are).
I would say this-the only way to deal with it is to speak to him about it. Period. I think you have to literally say what you have said here-that you aren't ok with feeling compartmentalized in his life. And you also need to be realistic about if you are willing to accept the terms as he lays them out if he doesn't want to change that.
I am sorry you feel this way and you're going through this
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Post by Dualcitizen on Sept 4, 2020 2:27:02 GMT
I just want to add that my FA always says he doesn’t do this to hurt me, etc. but it does. Someone on Reddit told me it was abusive, because it was gaslighting behavior.. thoughts? The term "gaslighting" is misused. "gaslighting" is literally trying to distort your reality by denying something happened, and generally "that something" that happened or that was said, was done in a malicious way. Now the real issue here as I see it, is if someone is dissociating a lot, they actually may be zoned out ands literally not remember something they may have said or done in a moment, and if the other partner said something that was important to them in that moment, and the dissociative person denies hearing it, that could be misconceived as "gaslighting", when it probably wasn't. Your bf is seemingly "flight" responding, and creating distance, avoiding. He's not doing something then denying it happened. He's said it's not malicious the distancing. Poor communication from his part. He needs to say "Hey look I need time alone this weekend with friends because I feel this.....", very simple, but he's not. He's just communicating poorly and avoiding, while feelings of resentment build up. Late reply, but..."the term "gaslighting" is totally misused like so many other words, including "narc" and "they are a narcissist" etc etc in psychology.
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Post by joan on Sept 5, 2020 3:16:54 GMT
Hi all, so I had posted previously about issues with my FA boyfriend. I am also FA. He is more DA. A big problem between us now is my feeling stashed. He made plans with friends this weekend (not including me) but then also tried to make plans in between to see me (alone, at my place). It’s hurtful to me and I don’t know how to react to it besides not talking to him right now. He already knows I am upset and I already made other plans with my friends.. who will ask me where he is. I know after this weekend is over he’s going to be trying to see me and pretend like everything is all good.. when it isn’t. Do other people face this problem? I’m not ok continuing to feel compartmentalized in his life. I don’t really care that he hasn’t introduced me to any family, but the friends thing really bothers me. Hi mads, I'm actually going through this exact situation as we speak. It's a long holiday weekend where we had plans for me to meet his other group of friends for the first time after 5 years of us being a couple. I was so excited I even when out shopping for an outfit, and felt like it was a nice, big step. Then he started a fight with me today over something that happened when we weren't together! To me it's just an excuse to get out of introducing me to these friends and being able to go to this pool party with him. I was stashed all throughout our relationship. We broke up, he came back claiming to wanting a real relationship and yet not even a month in he's finding excuses to start a fight so he can keep stashing me. It's not okay in my opinion. Everyone is entitled to do their own thing with friends, but when it's a party with other girlfriends and wives and I'm not going to be a part of that equation yet again I can't deal. I made no other plans, and now I get to sit at home while he's at this pool party. I feel pretty done.
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Post by annieb on Sept 28, 2020 13:51:26 GMT
Joan - I hope this was the last straw that was needed for you to love and trust yourself fully. From now on. You know what to do.
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Post by annieb on Sept 29, 2020 15:33:35 GMT
I recommend watching some of the Psychology in Seattle Videos on youtube. I went through the whole lineup of the 90 day fiance with Darcey videos and it was really helpful to hear Dr. Honda's take. So basically when these types (avoidant) say they don't mean to hurt you they mean it. Their intention is not to gaslight you, bet they do it by their coping (unaware) behavior. Their confusing behavior can be interpreted as gaslighting. But the definition of gaslighting is to purposefully make you feel crazy. I think a lot of us, who have stopped dating altogether are basically refusing to deal with unaware individuals, but we still encounter the same (defensive) behaviors at work and with friends. It's exhausting to deal with other people's defenses, to say the least. Especially your intimate partner's.
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Post by amber on Sept 30, 2020 21:39:48 GMT
I recommend watching some of the Psychology in Seattle Videos on youtube. I went through the whole lineup of the 90 day fiance with Darcey videos and it was really helpful to hear Dr. Honda's take. So basically when these types (avoidant) say they don't mean to hurt you they mean it. Their intention is not to gaslight you, bet they do it by their coping (unaware) behavior. Their confusing behavior can be interpreted as gaslighting. But the definition of gaslighting is to purposefully make you feel crazy. I think a lot of us, who have stopped dating altogether are basically refusing to deal with unaware individuals, but we still encounter the same (defensive) behaviors at work and with friends. It's exhausting to deal with other people's defenses, to say the least. Especially your intimate partner's. I watched one of his videos! So good! Really shed some light on how I felt towards my ex FA...he describes people with avodiant attachment as being an enigma, or mysterious, or hard to read because they don’t signal to others how they feel emotionally. This was exactly how I felt with my ex and what I found so attractive; I think part of that is because my father was really similar, emotionally shut down and I could never figure out as a child what he was feeling
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Post by annieb on Sept 30, 2020 22:26:21 GMT
I recommend watching some of the Psychology in Seattle Videos on youtube. I went through the whole lineup of the 90 day fiance with Darcey videos and it was really helpful to hear Dr. Honda's take. So basically when these types (avoidant) say they don't mean to hurt you they mean it. Their intention is not to gaslight you, bet they do it by their coping (unaware) behavior. Their confusing behavior can be interpreted as gaslighting. But the definition of gaslighting is to purposefully make you feel crazy. I think a lot of us, who have stopped dating altogether are basically refusing to deal with unaware individuals, but we still encounter the same (defensive) behaviors at work and with friends. It's exhausting to deal with other people's defenses, to say the least. Especially your intimate partner's. I watched one of his videos! So good! Really shed some light on how I felt towards my ex FA...he describes people with avodiant attachment as being an enigma, or mysterious, or hard to read because they don’t signal to others how they feel emotionally. This was exactly how I felt with my ex and what I found so attractive; I think part of that is because my father was really similar, emotionally shut down and I could never figure out as a child what he was feeling I think recognizing your attachment figure in a prospective mate is probably what most of us end up dealing with. I think that awareness now will probably change things going forward for you. For us.. At least I hope it’s going to be the case, or at least will give us a pause.. I haven’t dated in a good while now, so I’m curious how my self development and recent therapy will change things.
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