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Post by ocarina on Dec 2, 2018 10:51:34 GMT
Following on from and without wishing to hijack the tnr9 thread I thought it would help to share on here.
I know ALOT about psychology/psychotherapy, long term meditator, child of a child psychology professor (maybe that's the problem) and I am a medic. Despite all this knowledge, the knowing and the putting into practice are very different things and I have spent a good while feeling a bit stuck and maybe even using the knowledge and the gaining of more as a kind of avoidance.
I guess from reading on here there are a lot of others with good awareness who don't seem able to make the next step.
I signed up a while ago for an online ACT course (Acceptance and Commitment Therapy) and I can honestly say it's been life changing. Or at least life enhancing. It also has a strong grounding in evidence based clinical practice (important for the medic/scientist in me).
I am happy to discuss it if you'd like - probably best to have a look at the link or maybe if you're more disciplined than me, buy the book and work through it that way. The online course is supported with personal input so was much more helpful for me. It doesn't run all the time so the first step is to register an interest and they will let you know when registration opens.
I think it should be taught to high school children - half the people I work with who are high flying professionals are on the verge of depression/ serious anxiety and have very few tools to help them build a fulfilling life. Seems as though poor mental health is endemic - at least in my culture.
thehappinesstrap.com/8-week-program/
epicgum thanks for asking x
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Post by ocarina on Dec 2, 2018 10:55:35 GMT
PS I know I sound a bit evangelical about this - I promise I am not Russ Harris or anything to do with him!!! Just happy to share something that has really helped me.
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Post by tnr9 on Dec 2, 2018 13:56:14 GMT
ocarina...thank you for this...I am looking into it because I want to stop feeling miserable from old patterns. I spent a ton of money on candles yesterday and although I know I will use them all...it wasn't really about the candles...it was about being able to talk to the associates and other customers and swap and share stories. I am grateful that I can afford to have these moments, but it points to a need in me that I am trying to fill with stuff...and as a minimalist, I know that stuff is not the answer. Still the desire for connection is there. I am a huge fan of Dr. Gabor Mate...he is an addiction specialist and he speaks to the impact of stress and loneliness. I truly am grateful to this site and to the wisdom of other members who are willing to share what works for them.
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Post by ocarina on Dec 2, 2018 21:07:40 GMT
ocarina ...thank you for this...I am looking into it because I want to stop feeling miserable from old patterns. I spent a ton of money on candles yesterday and although I know I will use them all...it wasn't really about the candles...it was about being able to talk to the associates and other customers and swap and share stories. I am grateful that I can afford to have these moments, but it points to a need in me that I am trying to fill with stuff...and as a minimalist, I know that stuff is not the answer. Still the desire for connection is there. I am a huge fan of Dr. Gabor Mate...he is an addiction specialist and he speaks to the impact of stress and loneliness. I truly am grateful to this site and to the wisdom of other members who are willing to share what works for them. tnr9 that's heart breaking - and I really really hope this may be of use to you. Connection is a human desire full stop - and there's nothing wrong of course with having these needs - bravo for you for speaking up about it. The thing that separated the happiness trap for me, from other forms of therapy was that as well as approaching difficult thoughts and feelings, it helped me to create a kind of behavioural road map for the future.
Very often when we sort out behaviours or obsessive patterns, we get left with a kind of void which ends up being filled by another relationship or another unhealthy habit or whatever - the Happiness Trap really helped me to recognise what was truly important in my life and then move towards these values whilst dealing methodically and systematically with the difficulties along the way.
One thing I think that minimalism brings which can be challenging is it stops us papering over unhappiness or discontent by buying more stuff - and that can leave an uncomfortable feeling gap in life. Keep going!!!!
I am grateful too to everyone who cares enough to listen and comment.
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Post by epicgum on Dec 2, 2018 21:55:27 GMT
Thanks ocarina , i appreciate it. Is the Happiness Trap associated with the ACT? Or are they completely separate? Also, did you complete the program while single or in the context of a relationship? Edit: I am also of a more rational/scientific bent and i sometimes struggle with the more spiritual stuff as well, so i appreciate that angle as well.
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Post by ocarina on Dec 2, 2018 22:46:35 GMT
Thanks ocarina , i appreciate it. Is the Happiness Trap associated with the ACT? Or are they completely separate? Also, did you complete the program while single or in the context of a relationship? Edit: I am also of a more rational/scientific bent and i sometimes struggle with the more spiritual stuff as well, so i appreciate that angle as well. The Happiness Trap is applied ACT in otherwords the ACT concept is behind the program - but it's a specific program to work methodically through the steps required - with clinical support and ongoing resources.
I signed up for the course when I was still effectively grieving my last very painful and difficult relationship - I just felt stuck. Whilst I was waiting for the course to start, my ex resurfaced very unexpectedly and intensely and I worked through most of the course whilst we were kind of negotiating our new norm. It helped me to stay objective and to stay on track during what was a pretty stressful time - and stay on my own track in other words not to disengage even though that was my go to setting - but not to over attach and jump right back in. It was the first time ever I could really say I have related from my values as opposed to from my reactive attachment disorder driven home page settings. I feel much more in control of myself and hence have much less of a need to control anyone else!
I think that to be honest relationship or not, I can't think of anyone who wouldn't benefit - it's not magic and there is a requirement to engage and actually do the exercises but once you begin to notice change happening, it's not difficult to commit to this.
It's funny epicgum I am totally rational and scientific but there's room inside of the for a deep inner wisdom and learning which I guess could be called spirituality - but the scientist in me needs an evidence base so no woo hoo crystals for me!
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Post by epicgum on Dec 3, 2018 3:38:12 GMT
Haha ok, ocarina you've sold me! I just ordered it. Will let you know...now i have to hurry and try to finish the current book i am working on...
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Post by 8675309 on Dec 3, 2018 10:23:59 GMT
Add some woo woo crystals too! I wear mine everyday. One for love/self love, protection and creativity flow, my work is creative stuff.(bracelets) I also have a little bag in my purse filled with them and in my car! haha.
Im glad this is working for you. And good luck epicgum, I hope it works well for you too.
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