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Post by alexandra on Apr 19, 2019 16:46:15 GMT
Helsbells, I'm so sorry, I know how much effort you were putting in to make this work. Both into the relationship and into exploring your own attachment style issues. You've shared that he wasn't really doing the same, in regards to working on his attachment issues even though he was trying to stay more present in the relationship (with middling success). If two insecurely attached people are putting effort into keeping the relationship but not into their own independent half of healing, then the dynamic, conflict, and stress won't ever change or improve. The key elements at the root of the problem aren't being fixed, so subsequently the relationship can't be. You should be proud of the work you've done on yourself through this, even if it's not finished yet. And try to go no contact and keep focusing on yourself. Not to hurt him, play games, or get his attention, simply to start to heal from the breakup and continue moving towards healing your attachment injuries. As long as he repeats without doing his own work, what you've seen in these cycles is the best of how it could ever be -- it will never be consistently good or get better, and it will repeat endlessly. It hurts so much, and I'm sorry for that. But you need to do what's best for you to break the toxic push-pull and get healthier if you don't want to get stuck in the breakup pain. ❤❤
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Post by alexandra on Apr 20, 2019 0:15:45 GMT
Helsbells, "Again my lack of being able to communicate and bottling things up until it comes out wrong has caused him to bolt again.." This is not true. You're both stuck in insecure attachment, and he didn't leave 5 times because of you. He left instead of working on his issues. All you can do is keep working on yourself so that you don't feel like you have to accept a man who will prioritize staying with his addictions over facing them.
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Post by mrob on Apr 20, 2019 12:31:51 GMT
@hellsbells you know if you delete this as you say, nobody can learn from your experience.
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Post by leavethelighton on Apr 20, 2019 23:39:00 GMT
Helsbells , "Again my lack of being able to communicate and bottling things up until it comes out wrong has caused him to bolt again.." This is not true. You're both stuck in insecure attachment, and he didn't leave 5 times because of you. He left instead of working on his issues. All you can do is keep working on yourself so that you don't feel like you have to accept a man who will prioritize staying with his addictions over facing them.
This. If expressing some strong emotions and venting-- even if not in the most appropriate way-- makes someone just bolt, then the problem is the relationship, but not you. In a healthy relationship, someone can vent now and then (albiet maybe not abusively) and the other person will get over it and try to communicate and move forward, they won't just bolt.In other words, it's like the cliche about taking two to tango-- don't put all the blame on yourself if he decides to bolt.
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Post by tnr9 on Apr 21, 2019 15:41:55 GMT
Hugs...just hugs....
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Post by tnr9 on Apr 21, 2019 21:13:50 GMT
Thanks tnr9 hugs mean a lots right now. He's just messaged me asking if I'm ok 😥. Thursday told me it's over for good this time and only message far a few in between. We are as broken as each other. I know he's probably only wanted to be soothed like me. Yeh..it can be very confusing when the person who ends things contacts you...especially if it is not 100% clear what the purpose and motive are....hope will always read a hopeful sign into messages that convey care. Perhaps asking for a bit of space while you work through your grieving would be helpful? 💕💕
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Post by tnr9 on Apr 22, 2019 20:57:26 GMT
So now I said hi tonight he's not replying even though he went off line on WhatsApp as soon as I started texting which makes me feel he was checking on me. Silly games suck Ohhhhhh...I know that rabbit hole all too well...where everything is personal..every log off, every non response. Something that I have had to remember is that I am projecting what I would do in that situation..not necessarily what is reality.
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Post by tnr9 on Apr 22, 2019 23:06:17 GMT
No, he is aware I lived with him for 15 mths and watched how he dealt with rejection from family members and friends. He's playing me. So if that is the case, it might be best to remove his ability to play games. Seems my relationship was a bit different as I never experienced game playing from B.
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