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Post by attach3d on Aug 9, 2020 17:55:01 GMT
So a DA male on Reddit put together a rather extensive write-up for handling a FA wife. You can read it here: https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/comments/bq3rez/handling_a_fearfulavoidant_wife/
Grab some popcorn!
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Post by alexandra on Aug 9, 2020 18:16:31 GMT
That's so sad. Someone asked why not just identify this as the codependency it is and leave?
Answer from OP: "Same reasons for sticking with any woman - she adds value to my life and helps with my mission. My wife overall isn’t a horrible women and honestly she hasn’t always been an FA she was closer to secure when we first met. There were circumstances in our marriage that actually pushed her to be FA - things I did and didn’t do so it’s not always a clear cut and dry case of poor vetting.
If anything it’s been helpful to me to kill my codependency. I have no need to for affection at all anymore - it’s just something I learned to reprogram in my head. Maybe that’s unhealthy and maybe not but it no longer bothers me that she can’t handle me hugging her or holding hands. She does it when she wants it and needs it which is very rarely.
Every person is different and for some it may be a deal breaker but that’s actually the least of my problems at this point now that I understand it."
And you know what is missing from all those words? That he cares about her in any way. He'd rather stay and play control games and consciously forego any emotional intimacy than work on himself. Plus admits he pushed her more FA through his own behavior!!!
But what more can be expected from anything with red pill in the title :/
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Post by alexandra on Aug 9, 2020 18:20:55 GMT
He's also wildly narcissistic to have a decent understanding of attachment theory and twisting it around to manipulate others -- something to be careful of in partners who seem aware but still make you feel off for some reason.
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Post by AM on Aug 9, 2020 19:48:02 GMT
Whew, how exhausting! Yikes on the Reddit wacky write up, makes me want to retch popcorn while even just scrolling, let along reading this guy's rag on.
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Post by attach3d on Aug 10, 2020 0:55:16 GMT
Kept asking myself, Who wants to live like that?!
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Post by Dualcitizen on Aug 10, 2020 1:44:52 GMT
Kept asking myself, Who wants to live like that?! He's happy too, clearly, he has SMV and is red pilled! And that makes all the difference, not the fact he's Dismissive Avoidant with narcissist tendency and openly brags about how "he" can control and manipulate sex acts from his partner, and knows when and how to use intermittent reinforcement better than his F-A counterpart. This classic response to another man in a similar situation: "Focus on core MRP. If you’re not fuckable, you’re not fuckable, and that’s your problem. Cutting out the affectionate stuff should help a bit, but you’ll only get real results with higher SMV. Lift, frame, game, dread, all the usual stuff, that’s your bread and butter." Unbelievable tbh, no wonder people get triggered etc, it's gameplaying literally, and harkens back to the book by Neil Strauss "The Game". You "cut out" affection to garner a "result" or manipulate the partners behaviour? If you are happy in yourself, love yourself, you look after yourself baseline anyway, you already are solid finiancially, reasonably fit etc, if you are in a healthy frame of mind, and centred, not allowing over emotional behaviour make you act in a certain way (I mean don't get me wrong it eventually does and there WILL be a reaction of some type if that behaviour continues, like everyone will get upset with constant emotional abuse, there is noway around this). You don't need to memorise and learn a set proforma to control and manipulate someone. The woman in this relationship is being treated like garbage and moulded, yet again, as she has no sense of self sadly and is looking for validation. It's sad reading tbh If there ever was an example of who to avoid, this guy just gave you the example. Mind blown and it's brazenly obvious the patterns yet again of who pairs together and "the familiar" attracting one another.
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Post by alexandra on Aug 10, 2020 2:10:45 GMT
If there ever was an example of who to avoid, this guy just gave you the example. Mind blown and it's brazenly obvious the patterns yet again of who pairs together and "the familiar" attracting one another. My mind immediately went to, the only person who would agree to marry OP sounds like she has undiagnosed mental issues that she probably needs some real help with. And OP is simply, I did a Taming of the Shrew on her because sex and family social virtue signaling are all that's important to me #winning!
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Post by Dualcitizen on Aug 10, 2020 2:13:46 GMT
If there ever was an example of who to avoid, this guy just gave you the example. Mind blown and it's brazenly obvious the patterns yet again of who pairs together and "the familiar" attracting one another. My mind immediately went to, the only person who would agree to marry OP sounds like she has undiagnosed mental issues that she probably needs some real help with. And OP is simply, I did a Taming of the Shrew on her because sex and family social virtue signaling are all that's important to me #winning! It literally is an example of "winning", from the other thread. In his mind anyway. It is sad reading imao. Even more disturbing the accolades he receives in the thread! This is the "toxic" male culture that has spawned from 3rd wave feminist movement, and behaviour mistakenly perceived as "alpha", "beta" etc when it truly is steeped in attachment theory and other mental health issues. Society is in for one hell of a ride that's for sure. A true "alpha" male, is empathic and strong emotionally and has his goals and aspirations, but the differerence is there is healthy narcissism, belief in oneself and confidence, but no braggadocio, and the narcissist traits outlined in this post. There is a difference. This guy shows no true empathy, nor true emotion/feelings or care for the other person, only an outcome and the control and manipulation of that outcome.
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Post by AM on Aug 10, 2020 2:15:59 GMT
Kept asking myself, Who wants to live like that?! Makes me curious of the psychological landscape, the neural networks rattling around in brains, inhabited by the Insecure attachment in whatever form is manifested....the beliefs and dynamics which the guy exuded is not, nor can ever be interpreted and lived out as loving, loving well, happiness, or joy in any fashion, but a constant state of multifaceted miseries like conditioned animals, rather than a high functioning loving being.
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Post by kittygirl on Aug 10, 2020 17:12:03 GMT
EWWWWWWWW! Guys??? This was insanely sexist and unbelievably gross. I HATED THIS SO MUCH. This was highly distressing to me...this dude can fuck right off
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