KAI
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Post by KAI on Jan 4, 2021 8:39:20 GMT
Hello,
i won't get too much into specifics, but i got dumped by my supposedly FA (after reading a lot on this forum, she's almost textbook i would say) gf 2 weeks ago. It was "out of the blue" (that's what we all say, right?lol) after 4 months of an ideal very intense relationship. She was not withdrawing at all during those 4 months, was very open, tender, asking for reassurance all the time, saying she loved me lot, that i was the person she was waiting for etc etc. I never once felt an ounce of that dismissive side during that period. Then it stroke hard.
After the breakup, i went NC for 1 week, then couldn't resist and send her an emotional "i'm sorry it ended" msg, but acknowledging the breakup as well (not trying to convince her that we should get back, just expressing i was sad, and that we could have worked on sthg, but that's all). She answered rationalizing the breakup, only being regretful for having cried the night of the breakup basically. Apart from that, the only thing she coudl say is 'we had reached the end of something" etc.
We agreed in meeting in january so that i could get my stuff back. (im not ready now so i will wait another 10 days or so, i think)
Another week or so went by and here we are.
In the meantime, the 1st week, she deleted all obvious signs that we had sthg going on on social networks (pics and comments), prevents me from seeing her stories, but still looks at mine. She might have gone back to her ex (which she said she despised a lot while we were together) but i think more for a fling or having sex. This guy has been chasing her a lot while we were together (trying to convince her to get back), to the point that they argued a lot, and she ceased being friends with him on Facebook and Insta... until right after the breakup. And i saw that they totally reconected as it was her b-day, and he spent it with her (and other friends - so i don't know he it's bc they're back together or just because she invited those friends over)
So the underlying question is : did his chasing offered some kind of reassurance that he will always be there for her, and made her want to go back ? Did my efforts in staying in limited contact pushed her even further ? IS that what she wanted : that i began chasing to prove her how much i love her ?
Thanks for your answers and insights, all appreciated !!
(i think i might also be FA or at least AP/FA as well .. (i might turn secure rapidly if i'm in a healthy relationship though) which complicates the matter even more, and if it was me i think i might give in to the romanticism of somebody professing her love to me after i so abruptly ended it .. but my avoidant side prevents me from doing so, or maybe it's just that i don't want to humiliate myself or get rejected again..)
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Post by BecomingMe on Jan 4, 2021 14:50:33 GMT
I cannot answer for your particular ex but a lot FAs do it because they are used to the push-pull cycle that was a staple for them growing up.
I did too, before I started therapy. Now I usually stay and don't rush to leave. I talk about things and try to understand. If you want to understand why they do it, there's a number of threads on these boards that explain it. They are recreating the chaos that existed when they were children because that is what they associate with love. That it is not healthy and oftentimes it is not even love is lost to the FA.
I cannot speak for what you should or should not do to win back your ex but I will say what most of the old-timers here say - what do you want? A relationship full of chaos that never settles or a relationship where differences are resolved calmly and one where your partner is not flighty and unpredictable? If chased, an FA settles because one push-pull cycle ended. But it will start again once closeness/intimacy/disagreement/resentment/any problem that requires communication sets it.
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KAI
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Post by KAI on Jan 4, 2021 19:46:28 GMT
Thank you for replying, BecomingMe,
i think my brain (and it's having the last word so far) knows that it's not the path to a healthy fulfilling relationship for now. She has to work, i have to work, and something has been damaged even if it's just her 1st deactivation. I have been reading a lot on this forums, and i've read some pretty nightmarish stories about people enduring that back and forth for 5 years or more and i'm like : WOW, how did they managed that ?? AS far as i'm concerned, I've almost only known the best part : those 4 months that had a taste of paradise. (Even if now i can see where our attachment styles already lead us in the wrong direction), and having those stories help me see where this could go.
I have been brave so far : i have not been chasing. I'm recovering. I'm learning.
But (of course there is a but), if i'm being honest, there is a part of me that is not entirely done. There is a part of me that is having trouble giving up on those 4 months and this girl i knew. There is a part of me that would be glad to see her come back. I guess i'm having a hard time convincing myself that it was all a fantasy.
And i think it was not.
From what i read here, and from my short experience with her i would say : she's not the girl that broke up with me, she's not the girl i had an amazing and passionate love story with either : she is a mix of the two, it's like she is able to follow those 2 paths at the same time i guess, and this makes me wonder. I don't know that 3rd person, so i guess there is a bit of curiosity on my part. What woudl have come next ? There is a lot of frustration involved as well.
There is also, and i think i'm not the only one that came to think at some point : i can do it, love conquers all ! and so on and so forth.
Fortunately, my brain, my thinking on it i would say is doing a great job in preventing me from acting on it.
I have stuff to get back from her, and i'll be waiting a bit, to be stronger when i see her.
I will use a lot this forum to unwind i guess. Learn and unwind (but seeing her will be like Ulysses resisting the sirens i think, i know that)
(I still would be happy to get other insights if some of you read this).
BecomingMe : during those four months, she seemed a very communicative girl (which was very attractive to me), i had the feeling that we could talk things out, that is why i was so baffled when she deactivated. I suppose it's because in the beginning, the attachment style is like "in the background", and maybe i had a glimpse of what it could be like if we were more secure (i know, there is a lot of "ifs" there)
THANKS AGAIN
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Post by alexandra on Jan 4, 2021 20:04:31 GMT
They don't deactivate because they want you to chase them. They deactivate because their fear of intimacy and engulfment has gotten triggered and the only way they know how to stop it is distancing. It's more likely they don't consciously recognize or understand this and are just reacting.
Chasing may on some level prove you won't "abandon" them for their bad behavior and allow them to return later, but it also leads to endless testing of you and endless instability because the issue is on their side and will repeat and circle and cycle.
If you are AP or FA but feel stable in other types of relationships, as you said, this is because you're not getting triggered by other types of partners. But the underlying attachment style is still there and will dictate your coping mechanism patterns when stressed, and to some extent also will influence being more attracted to other insecure style partners. I know you're asking about her not yourself, but the most productive response for you in this situation is learning from it and digging more into your own attachment style. You deserve better than a fantasy-turned-breakup. You may not see this, but the drama she was having with the other guy is coming from her (it takes two to continue it) and reflective of her past chaotic romantic relationships and predictive of how she'll act in the future as well. So why would you tolerate that? What were you getting out of a 4 month period filled with projection that isn't otherwise being satisfied in your life?
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KAI
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Post by KAI on Jan 4, 2021 22:37:32 GMT
Thank you Alexandra,
i think i will re-read that message over and over again.
I am willing to learn. I am willing to try and identify my patterns if i feel triggered. I think i'm on the right path. The breakup happened 20 days ago, and i think i already processed a lot. Of course there are times when i feel very sad about all this, and i miss her a lot, i miss those moments. But a part of me is also relieved, because towards the end, i was not happy with our dynamic anymore and i would have liked to try sthg new, but then .. the breakup.
Thanks for your time !
i will keep on navigating this forum for sure + tomorrow i am seeing my analyst, really looking forward to it.
keep on going, survivors
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