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Post by stitchfull on Dec 17, 2021 14:41:57 GMT
Thanks for your responses everyone. I’ll definitely be focussing on my progress. I’ve been reflecting on my own attachment type and I think I might be a heavily AP leaning FA myself. I’ll have for a conversation with my ex-FA if we ever reach that point of trust in our relationship ever again. We have some mutual friends and other shared points in common so this may happen/ or not. I am aware of how incompatible we are so I’m not actively trying to get back with him.
Interesting what you say Krolle. I actually tested having this conversation with a guy I went on one date with and hooked up with 4 years ago. We have a long history but now we’re just friends. He’s definitely an avoidant (I think DA) and has never had anything close to a relationship in the 5 years I’ve known him and goes from one night stands after another. We talked about therapy, childhood issues and relationship patterns. During the conversation, he said how he values his independence the most, how he’s been with girls who had boyfriends (confirming that relationships don’t last), how his parent’s divorce affected his trust for relationships and how he fears attachment as a result. I spoke to him about all this and it was very interesting to hear these values from the horse’s mouth let’s say. He’s a very attractive man (as many avoidants are) but I have zero intentions of getting together with him. I suppose this shows that we can have these conversations but as you say, with zero intentions to get back into a relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2021 15:37:35 GMT
Thanks for your responses everyone. I’ll definitely be focussing on my progress. I’ve been reflecting on my own attachment type and I think I might be a heavily AP leaning FA myself. I’ll have for a conversation with my ex-FA if we ever reach that point of trust in our relationship ever again. We have some mutual friends and other shared points in common so this may happen/ or not. I am aware of how incompatible we are so I’m not actively trying to get back with him. Interesting what you say Krolle. I actually tested having this conversation with a guy I went on one date with and hooked up with 4 years ago. We have a long history but now we’re just friends. He’s definitely an avoidant (I think DA) and has never had anything close to a relationship in the 5 years I’ve known him and goes from one night stands after another. We talked about therapy, childhood issues and relationship patterns. During the conversation, he said how he values his independence the most, how he’s been with girls who had boyfriends (confirming that relationships don’t last), how his parent’s divorce affected his trust for relationships and how he fears attachment as a result. I spoke to him about all this and it was very interesting to hear these values from the horse’s mouth let’s say. He’s a very attractive man (as many avoidants are) but I have zero intentions of getting together with him. I suppose this shows that we can have these conversations but as you say, with zero intentions to get back into a relationship. This forum is pretty cool for sorting stuff out. Glad you found a good direction for you.
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Post by krolle on Dec 18, 2021 4:14:10 GMT
Thanks for your responses everyone. I’ll definitely be focussing on my progress. I’ve been reflecting on my own attachment type and I think I might be a heavily AP leaning FA myself. I’ll have for a conversation with my ex-FA if we ever reach that point of trust in our relationship ever again. We have some mutual friends and other shared points in common so this may happen/ or not. I am aware of how incompatible we are so I’m not actively trying to get back with him. Interesting what you say Krolle. I actually tested having this conversation with a guy I went on one date with and hooked up with 4 years ago. We have a long history but now we’re just friends. He’s definitely an avoidant (I think DA) and has never had anything close to a relationship in the 5 years I’ve known him and goes from one night stands after another. We talked about therapy, childhood issues and relationship patterns. During the conversation, he said how he values his independence the most, how he’s been with girls who had boyfriends (confirming that relationships don’t last), how his parent’s divorce affected his trust for relationships and how he fears attachment as a result. I spoke to him about all this and it was very interesting to hear these values from the horse’s mouth let’s say. He’s a very attractive man (as many avoidants are) but I have zero intentions of getting together with him. I suppose this shows that we can have these conversations but as you say, with zero intentions to get back into a relationship. Well done for focusing on yourself. Yeah it's often people's core beliefs about relationships, the opposite sex and humanity in general which dictate their ability to be a good partner As much as I crave connection with someon when I think of long term relationships, every thought that comes up in my head is negative. There's no concept of love, or trust, or happiness. Just obligation, restriction misery and fear. You can see why LTR's are unappealing to someone with a strong avoidant side lol.
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Post by alexandra on Dec 18, 2021 5:26:39 GMT
As much as I crave connection with someon when I think of long term relationships, every thought that comes up in my head is negative. There's no concept of love, or trust, or happiness. Just obligation, restriction misery and fear. You can see why LTR's are unappealing to someone with a strong avoidant side lol. My long term FA ex once told me that he "knew what he was giving up" by being with me. I was so taken aback I didn't respond, but it made no sense to me. Especially since I don't even recall that it was in any sort of context. But like, why are you in a serious relationship if you think it's a weight, and do I want to be with someone who sees me that way. Especially when I'm not controlling or "making" him give anything up. I should have broken up with him then and there, but of course I didn't understand any of this stuff at the time and thought maybe I needed to try even harder. I'm sure it's hard, confusing, and lonely to be in that mindset, but since it's not generally related to the partner, only the person can address it. And find someone whose current life goals are compatible with yours, so your relationship makes you both happy.
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Post by krolle on Dec 18, 2021 13:25:04 GMT
As much as I crave connection with someon when I think of long term relationships, every thought that comes up in my head is negative. There's no concept of love, or trust, or happiness. Just obligation, restriction misery and fear. You can see why LTR's are unappealing to someone with a strong avoidant side lol. My long term FA ex once told me that he "knew what he was giving up" by being with me. I was so taken aback I didn't respond, but it made no sense to me. Especially since I don't even recall that it was in any sort of context. But like, why are you in a serious relationship if you think it's a weight, and do I want to be with someone who sees me that way. Especially when I'm not controlling or "making" him give anything up. I should have broken up with him then and there, but of course I didn't understand any of this stuff at the time and thought maybe I needed to try even harder. I'm sure it's hard, confusing, and lonely to be in that mindset, but since it's not generally related to the partner, only the person can address it. And find someone whose current life goals are compatible with yours, so your relationship makes you both happy. I imagine that must have been quiet painful to hear. I'm sorry for that alexandra. It's weird how empathy can be a difficult concept for certain people in certain situations. I remember one of my very anxious ex partners all teared up saying "I feel like a burden to you" And I responded something like: " well you are! all human relationships are a burden to me. Including many of my friends. It seems to cost me massive amounts of emotional energy interacting with people and I feel exhausted by it, but it's just as bad, if not worse being without you" And she of course took it personally, and became aggressive and emotional, which shut me down further. At the time I didn't even bat an eyelid or consider the comment might have hurt her. In hind sight I realize how awful it must have felt to be told by the person you love that you are a burden. As you rightly said she should have left me then. But just tried harder and probably felt more and more worthless as I was unable to reciprocate. Even though I did very much love her in the limited way I could manage. It wasnt the way she needed to be loved.
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