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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 2:15:52 GMT
She just may not be able to empathize and it creates a block between you two.
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Post by seeking on Feb 7, 2022 11:42:34 GMT
This thing with my friend has been weighing on me like so many other things.
Maybe it's what happened with my ex last night and recently (in another post) but I woke up this morning and kind of snapped.
I'm tired of making it better for people. They can do better. If they can't they can't, I get it.
I was honest with my friend. I think I was afraid to be THAT vulnerable.
I was afraid to admit, hey I needed you and you weren't there. I don't want to put that on any one - I'm understanding. But if I'm going to reach out to YOU after I feel wounded and hurt, but be willing to put it behind me and hold out an olive branch and you want to slap it down and tell me to search my own heart, whatever. Ef that.
So I told her as much. It's not what I wanted. I don't think it will make things better. But for me to make things better, I'd have to swallow that to repair with her and I don't owe that to anyone. I went through living hell the past few years. And if you can't be there for me as a friend, I won't hold it against you - but if you can't simply own "Hey, yeah, that was hard not hearing from you for that long." then you need to grow up. She's in her mid fifties. It's time.
I guess I'm cranky and have no patience, and waited one month to have a feeling rise up in me where I could be generous and give her the - whatever - apology or something she wanted. But I guess I can't. And I'm truly sad.
I woke up this morning and realized, I need her to be there for me right now. She has her own stuff going on, we all do. But if you're the type of friend who holds that stuff against someone, it won't work. I think she's immature in a lot of ways.
I am recalling how in the past year, she came to my town and texted me when she was here to see if I could spend time. It's fine. But I wouldn't do that to someone. I have a friend who is like me, busy single mom working - losing her mind half the time. I SEE her. I'm capable of that much. And I would never drop in last minute and be like "Hey, me me me!" That's what it feels like. I'd see how she is, understand that she's busy, see when might work for her, and if it doesn't understand.
Anyway, it's not like this feels good or is off my chest. But I had to be honest. I wanted my friend back, but "getting her back" felt like more of my unhealthy patterns that I'm not willing to indulge.
Thanks for listening.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2022 17:03:30 GMT
It's really eye opening to recognize our own unhealthy patterns in the friends we choose, just like the romantic relationships we choose. Usually when someone is letting us down so to speak, it was made possible by our own inability to see how we let ourselves down, and we unconsciously chose that dynamic based on our own limited capacities.
Do you have a sense of how you would like to proceed with healthy friends, or in cultivating new friendships?
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Post by seeking on Feb 7, 2022 17:13:31 GMT
Thanks, Introvert.
I must have really blasted through some serious personal changes in the last couple of years because, yes, it is striking to me how much updating is needed. This is a long-term good friend, and I always knew she was pretty co-dependent and unhealthy (as I've been at different times), but we still remained really solid friends. I just tended to ignore her "stuff" unless it got directed at me. Which this is what it felt like.
I said what I did this morning and realized I need more of that. I tend to never really trust my own anger, and not want to direct it at people - but that's exactly what boundaries are- they are healthy aggression and asserting ourselves and our needs. And it's VERY rare for me - pretty much unheard of - for me to share with someone "Hey, I needed you and you weren't there." I feel like I'm burdening people, etc. But it feels right to say that. It's not to guilt them, blame them, but to share my experience, be vulnerable, and it feels real.
I woke up this morning, once again crushed by trauma with my daughter and her dad, and I just thought - where are my freaking friends? (I have them, they will be there) but I meant the recent two who I've had falling outs with . . ..
She responded pretty quickly (I sent it early b/c I couldn't sleep) and I haven't read it yet b/c I've had a busy day - we'll see.
As to your question, I just don't really choose this anymore. I think I've done so much work, I'm now just naturally drawn to healthier people.
Thank you for the continued support.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2022 17:38:07 GMT
I remember that weird time of outgrowing people, and actually feeling and seeing what was going wrong. There's a time of endings and falling away that naturally happen, at least for me that's how it was. I've got a large community support of positive people and then a best friend, one or two confidantes and buddies is all I need really. I'm not a "friend group" person. I know some are, who keep a circle of close friends. But my point is, I have cultivated and entered into belonging into a situation that has me interacting without toxicity at work, home, and socially.
It used to be there was toxic all around! It's interesting how your environment shifts when you do.
In those times of overwhelming circumstances beyond mg control, I find the practice of letting go and going within in my own spiritual/philosophical journey to be the best help, aside from seeking emotional support and friendship from my best friend and my partner. I also have colleagues that I have a sisterhood with, who are strong and empathetic and available should I have to walk in the door with something heavy on me.
Being home with your daughter AND working from home probably has you fairly isolated, in terms of the in person relief you can get by just BEING around the other warm bodies of a clan. So I get a sense you are malnourished for touch, kindness, and empathy and warmth. Is that true?
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Post by seeking on Feb 8, 2022 1:18:09 GMT
I remember that weird time of outgrowing people, and actually feeling and seeing what was going wrong. There's a time of endings and falling away that naturally happen, at least for me that's how it was. I've got a large community support of positive people and then a best friend, one or two confidantes and buddies is all I need really. I'm not a "friend group" person. I know some are, who keep a circle of close friends. But my point is, I have cultivated and entered into belonging into a situation that has me interacting without toxicity at work, home, and socially. It used to be there was toxic all around! It's interesting how your environment shifts when you do. In those times of overwhelming circumstances beyond mg control, I find the practice of letting go and going within in my own spiritual/philosophical journey to be the best help, aside from seeking emotional support and friendship from my best friend and my partner. I also have colleagues that I have a sisterhood with, who are strong and empathetic and available should I have to walk in the door with something heavy on me. Being home with your daughter AND working from home probably has you fairly isolated, in terms of the in person relief you can get by just BEING around the other warm bodies of a clan. So I get a sense you are malnourished for touch, kindness, and empathy and warmth. Is that true? Thanks for this. And yes to your last question. If someone looks me directly in the eye, sometimes I just start crying.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 3:28:11 GMT
I remember that weird time of outgrowing people, and actually feeling and seeing what was going wrong. There's a time of endings and falling away that naturally happen, at least for me that's how it was. I've got a large community support of positive people and then a best friend, one or two confidantes and buddies is all I need really. I'm not a "friend group" person. I know some are, who keep a circle of close friends. But my point is, I have cultivated and entered into belonging into a situation that has me interacting without toxicity at work, home, and socially. It used to be there was toxic all around! It's interesting how your environment shifts when you do. In those times of overwhelming circumstances beyond mg control, I find the practice of letting go and going within in my own spiritual/philosophical journey to be the best help, aside from seeking emotional support and friendship from my best friend and my partner. I also have colleagues that I have a sisterhood with, who are strong and empathetic and available should I have to walk in the door with something heavy on me. Being home with your daughter AND working from home probably has you fairly isolated, in terms of the in person relief you can get by just BEING around the other warm bodies of a clan. So I get a sense you are malnourished for touch, kindness, and empathy and warmth. Is that true? Thanks for this. And yes to your last question. If someone looks me directly in the eye, sometimes I just start crying. Do you have an emotionally safe source for this kind of support? I know that childcare is an issue, but if there is any way to get some quality in person time with someone you trust and are close to, it would be such a worthy investment. Im sorry you're feeling bereft of the comfort you need right now. I hope that somehow you can get those needs met, soon. We all need that.
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Post by seeking on Feb 8, 2022 13:24:13 GMT
Do you have an emotionally safe source for this kind of support? I know that childcare is an issue, but if there is any way to get some quality in person time with someone you trust and are close to, it would be such a worthy investment. Im sorry you're feeling bereft of the comfort you need right now. I hope that somehow you can get those needs met, soon. We all need that. Thanks. I'm working on this for my child right now. She's more in crises than I am. I'm also in a building stage of my business. Without getting it to where it needs to be, we are not financially stable. So everything like that has become urgent and a priority. I can't even afford therapy right now - but I am going to try it. I also found a therapist (body worker type) who I can get to 2x a month (my daughter came and stayed in another room). But it's also v. expensive! But it is definitely a good place for me to unravel. So trying to make it all work.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 15:15:17 GMT
I know that place you're in, I've been in it myself with traumatized kids after a divorce and I totally get it. Getting the financial stability in place is a huge task and can be so frightening! And not being able to round up the resources for the break we need so much. I think you are doing great by the way. Your unpacking it all and just moving forward. Keep going!
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Post by seeking on Feb 8, 2022 20:22:38 GMT
I know that place you're in, I've been in it myself with traumatized kids after a divorce and I totally get it. Getting the financial stability in place is a huge task and can be so frightening! And not being able to round up the resources for the break we need so much. I think you are doing great by the way. Your unpacking it all and just moving forward. Keep going! Oh thank you. I really appreciate you saying that.
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