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Post by annieb on Nov 20, 2021 17:40:38 GMT
I sympathise with your situation annieb. My ex of 1.5 years broke up with me 3 weeks ago (also co-worker) and I've been binge reading this forum which I found last night and find myself in a very similar situation to the many posts on this forum about FAs. It would be good to get your opinions and will be creating a new thread once I survive this working day... Welcome ponyogirl and thank you fir stopping by I look forward to see how things improve for you!
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Post by annieb on Nov 21, 2021 6:45:51 GMT
I'll update my little story here. I happened to work with the object of my affection this week, although unplanned. He's also called me on the phone and texted a bunch, and I have responded and communicated with him, outside of work. He's been very affectionate verbally. You could mistake this for a full on courtship. And as resolved as I was, it was starting to bend me, so I needed to put a stop to it. My goal is to make my life comfortable, because I cannot take any of this anymore. Anyway, thankfully, a very chatty coworker revealed that the guy is now in a confirmed relationship (although he has flirted heavily with me, and texted and called the last two weeks), and when I asked him about it (I felt like I had to to get my peace), he confirmed it, he said it was someone long distance, he met 10 years ago. But that it was very hard. Poor guy has FA written all over him. But so do I. Who am I to judge? Smart as I am now having done this dance several times, I never offer unsolicited opinion on the phantom ex fantasy and the rest. I certainly remember dating the Swedish man at 34, a man I had met eighteen years prior. My object of affection is the same age as I was then. I was just starting my recovery so to speak, glimpses of therapy.
I attempted to have the draw boundaries talk at work yesterday and have the conversation there with him, but it came out wrong and I was too emotional to say anything beyond that it "sucked for me". Not my proudest moment by any means and even though I had thought through in detail as what to say, I wasn't able to do it. I was feeling the self pity and jealousy of him being in a relationship. I was annoyed with myself for sure.
Still I waited a day and then in a fashion I regret, but what seemed the only viable option in the moment due to my fear and pain, I texted an agreement with him, and he agreed to abide by my wishes to not flirt at work, and to not call me anything, but my name. I have no intention to talk to him outside of work whatsoever, and if he does start texting (which he won't now I believe for a good month), hopefully by then I will have moved on completely. I am deliberately working through this, and reaching out to friends about it, them supporting me, etc. Something I haven't done that much in the past. And how great is that support!
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Post by alexandra on Nov 21, 2021 7:22:42 GMT
I think this sounds good. Good on you for laying out some boundaries, even if your presentation of it wasn't perfect. Still all sound like steps in the right direction, especially if you can stay consistent about it.
And I'm not surprised about what you found out about him being in a long-distance relationship! That probably made him comfortable flirting with you because he's not available so it's "safe," especially if you ever called him out on it while wanting more. Gets him validation and attention, gets him what he wants in regards to he probably does also like hanging out with you, but he'd also have plausible deniability if anything with your interaction trended in a more serious direction. He's also found a relationship with a lot of distance that's difficult for him, which means he doesn't need to be fully present for that either but still has an aspect of longing. Everything sounds like it's on his own terms, comfortable for him without full commitment anywhere.
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Post by annieb on Nov 21, 2021 8:07:18 GMT
Thank you, Alexandra. I feel nowadays I belong to a secret club with secret knowledge. How much I am aware of everything around me and confirmed unmistakably by the forum members and my wise friends.
What a brilliant observation of the unavailability aspect of introducing the long distance girlfriend for a good measure. In my incoherent speech I may have mentioned that he never said he was looking for a relationship, and that he in fact was in a relationship and he was quick to correct me that not until the end of October that it was confirmed. That it was very recent. I can’t tell you how ridiculous this all is. Because the way he said it it was super sweet and he almost jumped forward to correct me and this man was full of love for me or appeared to be anyway, had I not belonged to this club, I would have probably just hugged and kissed him. And here I am knowing the truth. Gosh I feel the burden of knowledge. Or is it healing? Or maybe both. I never thought of the weight of it. I always thought that healing would be light. But here is is heavy as all f*ck.
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Post by alexandra on Nov 21, 2021 8:35:34 GMT
annieb, eh, I don't think healing is light. It doesn't diminish your memories, but it gives you insight into seeing through BS and choosing better for yourself. Which is better and way less tedious than staying stuck in an endless loop. The lightness that healing brings comes from clearing out all the layers of weight that make resolving conflict and stress so heavy when you have an insecure attachment style. Being able to process things as they come and to feel closure in accepting the past is way better!
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Post by mrob on Nov 24, 2021 23:56:39 GMT
annieb Poor guy has FA written all over him. But so do I. Who am I to judge? The difference is that you’re doing something about it rather than going around in a circle of ignorance, and that’s huge.
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Post by annieb on Nov 29, 2021 17:58:08 GMT
mrob thank you! I was working yesterday and I remembered again how much I loved my job. How much it always meant to me, and for a moment while agonizing over this guy that I lost come of the connection to me. To the job I like and also to my business. I really always regret the time I have spent in a codependency. It’s like a damn fog.
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Post by annieb on Dec 1, 2021 15:03:07 GMT
I’ve also decided to dip my toes into online dating on hinge. I feel like maybe it’s time to exercise some of my new found boundary setting ability. 😅 And that’s been interesting. I was trying to set up one date with someone who appeared a lovely man, and I kept going into sensory overload over it and not being able to organize. He called me out on it 😂. We ended up connecting and it was nice, albeit late and cold. We had a great conversation at an outdoor heated bar in which I proceeded to have one single drink over two and a half hours (as to being afraid to lose control probably). I was nervous, but it went well. He was nervous and funny. We talked about all kinds of things, our childhoods, our work, we connected on at least a friendship level for sure. And more. I asked him almost by the end what is one singular absolute worst thing about him, I sometimes ask that on dates and boy have the answers been enlightening! And he said that the one worst thing about him is probably that he is autistic. Well, I’ll be darned, but I didn’t pick up on it at all!!! My jaw literally dropped. I’m usually intuitive (read controlling 😅) and I suss out people like nobody’s business. But maybe for the first time I let the chips fall as they may and lol and behold, I had fun 😀 After the date he was talkative over text and then kind of got weird and I swear disappeared mid conversation. I called him on it a day later and asked what’s going on, to which he responded we were good, and he just needed to “regroup”. I was laughing, because that’s what you expect with online dating nowadays. Anyway, I wished him to feel better and dropped it. Erased the number, kind of almost forgot about him, and then of course got a text. He wanted to organize to meet me, but no set time, annoyed me and basically caused a major miscommunication. I then organized a date fir Saturday with time a d date and reservations. Maybe controlling of me, but I have a schedule 😑. He proceeded to meet a “friend” instead of me last night due to the misunderstanding, I guess.. But I will see him on Saturday and if he is a no show I will write and entry here instead while sipping Prosecco and eating oysters (I made reservations at a place I would be more than happy to eat alone just in case). But I’ve been too happy being alone. If you know what I mean. Trying to put myself out there. He is a scientist, we both have ADHD, he is autistic, I have no idea what I’m doing, what could go wrong?
Also found out that my coworker crush’s long distance girlfriend is his cousin’s ex wife. Not just any other woman from “his” past.
I can’t make this up. Happy Tuesday!
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Post by annieb on Dec 1, 2021 15:22:31 GMT
Wednesday, lol!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 15:50:49 GMT
You've got me laughing this (is it Wednesday?)morning! He's a scientist, we both have adhd, he's autistic, what could go wrong? And eating oysters, I'm ded.😂😂😂 Keep us posted!
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Post by alexandra on Dec 1, 2021 18:37:37 GMT
This may be a silly question, but would going out a few times with someone autistic help with an aware insecure practicing depersonalization? That's someone who can't read social cues so literally, nothing is done personally when there's a misunderstanding etc. And he's self-aware too because autism can bring a whole bunch of unique challenges in!
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Post by annieb on Dec 1, 2021 19:06:09 GMT
This may be a silly question, but would going out a few times with someone autistic help with an aware insecure practicing depersonalization? That's someone who can't read social cues so literally, nothing is done personally when there's a misunderstanding etc. And he's self-aware too because autism can bring a whole bunch of unique challenges in! Yes, absolutely, I think that's one reason I'm drawn to him, as I feel totally myself and like I can trust him? My only fear is that I don't infantilize him. Fear. Other than that at work my best friend at is autistic and there is usually not much bs with her. It's almost that she is actually more sensitive to clues than the all mighty "neurotypicals". And the way conversation is with this guy is also not that much different and for me it's easier to "read between the lines" with him. He does use quite a bit of "therapy lingo", which I find amusing.
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Post by annieb on Dec 13, 2021 17:02:28 GMT
Just wanted to update you guys that that great food and Prosecco was shared that night (he doesn’t like oysters 😅), although he did a pre-emptive test cancel on me I believe to see if I act weird (I do not, I’m a stealth shark of stoicism) and so far we’ve been on a couple more dates. He is moving at warp speed since about date three, but I’m keeping my eyes open. There is a great chance this will crash and burn in the coming weeks or days. He is a tall and handsome Dutch man, hehe, so I’m probably not thinking particularly clearly here either. Get this - he’s studied attachment theory professionally and is a DA. What are the odds, lol. In any other circumstances I would give this relationship a couple more weeks before he starts to get spotty on me and pulls a slow fade. But this may be the first time I’m dating someone, who’s aware of this and is actively in therapy. So.. not yet starting a new thread on him 😂
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Post by alexandra on Dec 13, 2021 20:17:49 GMT
Get this - he’s studied attachment theory professionally and is a DA. What are the odds, lol. That's pretty funny. But I bet the odds are higher than you think with the where you are in the process like attracting like type thing. Definitely curious if he has any "professional" opinions to add that are new or contrary to what we unprofessionally cover on this forum!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2021 4:15:24 GMT
DA's are awesome, go for it! 😂 couldn't resist
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