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Post by sorgin on Apr 14, 2022 16:02:44 GMT
Also, the thread on healing DA avoidant attachment style mentions the avoidant connection to nature. I spent wayyyy more time alone in nature before coming more out of avoidance, I spent most of my free time in the woods. It's strange, now I have to MAKE time to do what used to be the staple if my me time. Balance is good though. I just spend a lot more time with my partner in our activities, time I used to be alone and more in the dismissive groove. When I was a kid I spent all my time with our animals, outdoors exploring, fishing for hours, it seems like I was always outdoors by myself or.... reading. You can clearly see this corelation in the famous book "Into the Wild". Highly romantizied and reconstructed story though. I initially felt inspired by it but now I see the charachter as what it is. As you said, balance is good. If I had to choose one adventure book to be inspired, it'd be Seven Years in Tibet, and I am not a spritual person.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2022 16:20:44 GMT
Also, the thread on healing DA avoidant attachment style mentions the avoidant connection to nature. I spent wayyyy more time alone in nature before coming more out of avoidance, I spent most of my free time in the woods. It's strange, now I have to MAKE time to do what used to be the staple if my me time. Balance is good though. I just spend a lot more time with my partner in our activities, time I used to be alone and more in the dismissive groove. When I was a kid I spent all my time with our animals, outdoors exploring, fishing for hours, it seems like I was always outdoors by myself or.... reading. You can clearly see this corelation in the famous book "Into the Wild". Highly romantizied and reconstructed story though. I initially felt inspired by it but now I see the charachter as what it is. As you said, balance is good. If I had to choose one adventure book to be inspired, it'd be Seven Years in Tibet, and I am not a spritual person. I haven't read those books! But I can see how the deeply avoidant lifestyle could be romanticized. I mean, I romanticized the hell out of it and truly believed I was in bliss but really I was in a kind of freeze and zenned out meant being very disconnected from people. I encounter deep wounds finding close connection now- something I'm working through in the support forums. Still that experience of vulnerability that (sometimes) makes me feel a lot of deep emotion that is frightening to me. But according to the healing DA thread that is par for the course and I'm on the right track. Tough stuff at times no doubt.
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Post by sorgin on Apr 14, 2022 16:23:59 GMT
sorgin People with asperger can be extroverted and sociable… About adhd there’s a discussion going on right now in the somatic experiencing group on Facebook In my process of knowing myself I went through thinking I had so many mental dissorders that I didn't finally have that now I am reluctant to think I have anything else aside of ADHD, FA and I am yet to discover whether I might have a mid CPTSD as well. But you got my attention and I'll dig deeper into it to find out. Thanks Anne. I guess getting a therapist to diagnose me is ideal, but still struggling with trust issues. The funny thing is that while writting you I got an engine totally open in front of me to replace the head gasket, fix valves and more, because I didn't trust the mechanic to do it, even though I've never done it before. Greetings to you all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2022 17:24:40 GMT
sorgin People with asperger can be extroverted and sociable… About adhd there’s a discussion going on right now in the somatic experiencing group on Facebook In my process of knowing myself I went through thinking I had so many mental dissorders that I didn't finally have that now I am reluctant to think I have anything else aside of ADHD, FA and I am yet to discover whether I might have a mid CPTSD as well. But you got my attention and I'll dig deeper into it to find out. Thanks Anne. I guess getting a therapist to diagnose me is ideal, but still struggling with trust issues. The funny thing is that while writting you I got an engine totally open in front of me to replace the head gasket, fix valves and more, because I didn't trust the mechanic to do it, even though I've never done it before. Greetings to you all. FWIW, my boyfriend has ADHD (undiagnosed but there's no missing it 😀) and he just rebuilt the transmission and did other expert work on a diesel truck, even fabricated parts for it... same deal, he is brilliant and self reliant and has the focus and ingenuity and tenacity to tackle anything. So don't be afraid of anybody telling you you're different because different can be truly remarkable too.
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Post by rykus9 on Apr 14, 2022 17:36:05 GMT
sorgin People with asperger can be extroverted and sociable… About adhd there’s a discussion going on right now in the somatic experiencing group on Facebook In my process of knowing myself I went through thinking I had so many mental dissorders that I didn't finally have that now I am reluctant to think I have anything else aside of ADHD, FA and I am yet to discover whether I might have a mid CPTSD as well. But you got my attention and I'll dig deeper into it to find out. Thanks Anne. I guess getting a therapist to diagnose me is ideal, but still struggling with trust issues. The funny thing is that while writting you I got an engine totally open in front of me to replace the head gasket, fix valves and more, because I didn't trust the mechanic to do it, even though I've never done it before. Greetings to you all. sorgin I too looked into the asperger and only found some similar aspects. I too love order and meticulous qualities in construction, though, action surrounding etc. But I balance that with hoarding, unfinished projects, general chaos in my surroundings and the ability to dissociate and just survive through long periods of way sub par living conditions. On the flip side I love minimalism, and the feeling of order and space but can only maintain it in bursts until I get stressed then put 20hrs a day and all my life force into some random tangent and quickly fill my space and mind with projects and clutter again. I am no expert and only had one therapy session so far, and it was not diagnosing any issues I have just getting started on a SE therapy journey. But you and I I feel are similar in many aspects. I found once I committed to the idea of having to get therapy I was nervous but prepared and the talking was pretty easy and natural. I know that I am fairly high iq and developed it poorly and in a distrustful way. I have read just enough basic psychology to be dangerous to myself. I found at times I would get triggered into the feeling of you can't help me, when I got misunderstood I took it as her maybe being unable/not experienced/knowledgable enough to help me. But that was just my dismissive mind kicking in, and she was able to help me even in an hr session to start feeling my body a bit and make some progress into processing my past and the feelings I hold internally. Obviously as you say there will be many levels to every workers dedication to their job, but I feel with your level of self knowledge and intelligence you will be able to take some responsibility for your own growth to but using a therapist gives you the guidelines and tools to help it all go much faster. Like having a mechanic stop in once every so often and make sure you torqued all the bolts right on your cylander head lol.
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Post by sorgin on Apr 16, 2022 12:42:12 GMT
@introverttemporary They're both available in their respective film counterparts as well. Seven years in tibet is worth watching, one of my favourite films.
I love how deep your admiration for him is. Well, I mean, no wonder why, rebuilding the transmission? Wow haha. Looks like you're doing a great job working on yourself so far!
I appreciate your encouragement. I don't let myself to be undermined by those who focus on things related to my ADHD I cannot or do not want to change at the moment. It affects me less and less since some of who I considered comprehensive people ended up unmasking themselves as insecures projecting their own stuff on me and unable to accept everyone's brain doesn't work the same way. It took way more time to realize it than I'd like to admit it... Obviously I'd be much more affected if the person complaining were my partner, as I'be already triggered by my attachment woundings.
I would like to ask you, if isn't too personal to post it here, what aspects of the ADHD in your partner you find that might create "non-insecure attachment related conflict" within the relationship.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 15:08:44 GMT
@introverttemporary They're both available in their respective film counterparts as well. Seven years in tibet is worth watching, one of my favourite films. I love how deep your admiration for him is. Well, I mean, no wonder why, rebuilding the transmission? Wow haha. Looks like you're doing a great job working on yourself so far! I appreciate your encouragement. I don't let myself to be undermined by those who focus on things related to my ADHD I cannot or do not want to change at the moment. It affects me less and less since some of who I considered comprehensive people ended up unmasking themselves as insecures projecting their own stuff on me and unable to accept everyone's brain doesn't work the same way. It took way more time to realize it than I'd like to admit it... Obviously I'd be much more affected if the person complaining were my partner, as I'be already triggered by my attachment woundings. I would like to ask you, if isn't too personal to post it here, what aspects of the ADHD in your partner you find that might create "non-insecure attachment related conflict" within the relationship. I love that you are secure in your neuro divergence! I can somewhat relate because having strong HSP traits is also to be different from the "norm", and conveys a set of difficulties but also some strengths and gifts that I appreciate. My boyfriend takes me as I am as well, the "high maintenance" sensitive woman and the empathetic, insightful, and gifted woman are one in the same to him and it really feels good to be supported the way he supports me. We do have non-attachment related conflict related specifically to more problematic ADHD traits, but also have made a lot of progress with how we approach those conflicts. Here are some areas of conflict we have experienced and are learning to navigate constructively: Time management/hyper focus . He has a tendency to lose track of time and become hyper focused which can lead to frustration and disappointment on my end if he makes us late for something, keeps me waiting when I'm hungry (like, we have a date and he's still off doing something and I'm starved as hell and tired, haven't heard from him and feeling resentful because I feel forgotten, blah blah). How it's evolved: In the past, a pattern of this triggered anger and avoidance in me. I'd let him feel my irritation and he'd get defensive. Fight ensues. Then I began to put it all together. I talked to him about ADHD, in an attempt to support him, and work out the kinks. He felt defensive and rejected a label BUT... acknowledged that leaving me hanging was not his intention and was painful for me(and for him) Solution- a reminder or alarm on his phone to help him stay in track. Over time this has become (almost) a non issue! He's a hoarder, messy. (Not filth, just small piles of random chaos). This is an issue that we are approaching as a couple. Right now, we spend our together time in his personal space, instead of mine because of logistics. I recognize it's his space and his business, but also have my own needs for organization and the arrangement of my personal space, which helps me feel calm and balanced and most at ease. I used to fear the idea of cohabiting in the future, because of our vastly different lifestyles related to our personal space. I initiated a difficult conversation about this at one point, because it just kind of came to a head. I had to balance his needs and choices (and real struggles/limitations) with my own needs and wants, and asked for a compromise or at least a acknowledgement of this as an obstacle. How it's evolving: He likes and does not resent my re-organizing of the space, he likes the feeling of home and the pleasant esthetic I've introduced to his space. He acknowledges the clutter and messiness as something undesirable that he would like very much to correct, because he also enjoys organization but has difficulty achieving it. We have an open understanding that this is something we can and will approach as partners, with him tackling the task and me not taking the mom role with it- a common trap for an adhd couple is to fall into that parent child dynamic and we are aware of that on both ends. I will not over function, he will not persistently avoid the challenge. It's up to him to find a way to manage his stuff and I will be helpful and supportive. This is something we are doing to pave the way for happy cohabitation in the future. Impulsiveness, failure to plan adequately: This has resulted in some snafus! Short version: Some "I told you so!" , emotionally charged moments have evolved into more partnering on plans so that we can combine his inspiration with my pragmatic approach. More teamwork, more planning discussions, more adopting my way of doing things because I'm a more thorough planner and able to anticipate and head off difficulty, I excel at it as an HSP. He brings the vision and makes a lot happen, I help it happen less chaotically lol. It's actually a lot of fun to develop as a team, we are having a great time bringing the best of the ADHD and the best of the HSP personalities together. We are so opposite in some ways, it could spell the end of the relationship! But we have opted to make it something really special that capitalizes on our respective strengths. There are more, but there is nothing that we can't turn into an opportunity to get stronger and better as a couple. The payoff is worth it, for both of us. A sense of humor has proven very helpful, on both sides. We are able to laugh at ourselves, and playful interaction about this stuff is pretty common. It's been rough, really rough at times but that has softened as we have built trust and true camaraderie as a couple.
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Post by sorgin on Apr 16, 2022 15:29:17 GMT
In my process of knowing myself I went through thinking I had so many mental dissorders that I didn't finally have that now I am reluctant to think I have anything else aside of ADHD, FA and I am yet to discover whether I might have a mid CPTSD as well. But you got my attention and I'll dig deeper into it to find out. Thanks Anne. I guess getting a therapist to diagnose me is ideal, but still struggling with trust issues. The funny thing is that while writting you I got an engine totally open in front of me to replace the head gasket, fix valves and more, because I didn't trust the mechanic to do it, even though I've never done it before. Greetings to you all. sorgin I too looked into the asperger and only found some similar aspects. I too love order and meticulous qualities in construction, though, action surrounding etc. But I balance that with hoarding, unfinished projects, general chaos in my surroundings and the ability to dissociate and just survive through long periods of way sub par living conditions. On the flip side I love minimalism, and the feeling of order and space but can only maintain it in bursts until I get stressed then put 20hrs a day and all my life force into some random tangent and quickly fill my space and mind with projects and clutter again. I am no expert and only had one therapy session so far, and it was not diagnosing any issues I have just getting started on a SE therapy journey. But you and I I feel are similar in many aspects. I found once I committed to the idea of having to get therapy I was nervous but prepared and the talking was pretty easy and natural. I know that I am fairly high iq and developed it poorly and in a distrustful way. I have read just enough basic psychology to be dangerous to myself. I found at times I would get triggered into the feeling of you can't help me, when I got misunderstood I took it as her maybe being unable/not experienced/knowledgable enough to help me. But that was just my dismissive mind kicking in, and she was able to help me even in an hr session to start feeling my body a bit and make some progress into processing my past and the feelings I hold internally. Obviously as you say there will be many levels to every workers dedication to their job, but I feel with your level of self knowledge and intelligence you will be able to take some responsibility for your own growth to but using a therapist gives you the guidelines and tools to help it all go much faster. Like having a mechanic stop in once every so often and make sure you torqued all the bolts right on your cylander head lol. rykus9 yeah, that's me as well, it fits pretty well within ADHD description. The way I learnt to cope with unfinished projects is neglect almost everything else in order to get it done, so if I am doing something I consider important I will forget about other hobbies or tasks and force myself to finish it at a high cost of time, as I will be procrastinating in between. I hate this so much that when I've improved in regard to my FA tendencies no doubt I 'll try with that. In regard to therapy I am glad you decided to take action and seek help. For sure it's gonna improve you life at a higher speed rate. What are your thoughts on SE online? Is it possible? I get pressure in the upper part of the stomach when very triggered.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2022 15:42:20 GMT
Also- I don't want to conceal the amount of difficulty we have faced at times, as non-attachment issues triggered attachment style responses in each of us. So that's been pretty hairy at times. It's actually created the need for a LOT of change and growth in each of us. Learning to handle conflict in a healthier, more secure way. Learning our own projections, our own insecurities. So it's not a fairy tale, it's been a real story of working out a relationship between two people who are willing and able to work toward that, together. We do have conflict time to time but there's been a remarkable change in how we respond and repair. That's to the credit of each of us individually, and that's what makes it work. Neither of us takes all the credit nor all the blame, we are equally responsible for the success or failure of our relationship.
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Post by rykus9 on Apr 16, 2022 16:26:12 GMT
rykus9 yeah, that's me as well, it fits pretty well within ADHD description. The way I learnt to cope with unfinished projects is neglect almost everything else in order to get it done, so if I am doing something I consider important I will forget about other hobbies or tasks and force myself to finish it at a high cost of time, as I will be procrastinating in between. I hate this so much that when I've improved in regard to my FA tendencies no doubt I 'll try with that. In regard to therapy I am glad you decided to take action and seek help. For sure it's gonna improve you life at a higher speed rate. What are your thoughts on SE online? Is it possible? I get pressure in the upper part of the stomach when very triggered.[/quote] I have a tightness/pressure in my stomach as well when I'm stressed or experiencing trauma. With the SE she had me relax and breathe then she spoke and I can't remember exactly but my breath was like a whitish light and I could see the area that was tight, she asked me to describe it and I could see it looked pear shaped to me and the top was sunken in like an over aged fruit on hanging on the vine still. She then suggested it was maybe the unborn version of me and I think asked or suggested I hold/ comfort that version of myself. It felt pretty good and the visualization came fast and pretty clearly for me. If I thought to rationally about it it would fade a bit but if I relaxed and focused on the vision/breathing/trying to feel it stayed clear and pretty easy the whole time. I still had a hard time vocalizing and needs. It crazy actually how hard that is. And feeling my body or attaching emotions is still hard. I'm pretty detached from them both and have been for so long.
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Post by sorgin on Apr 19, 2022 15:41:16 GMT
I love that you are secure in your neuro divergence! I can somewhat relate because having strong HSP traits is also to be different from the "norm", and conveys a set of difficulties but also some strengths and gifts that I appreciate. My boyfriend takes me as I am as well, the "high maintenance" sensitive woman and the empathetic, insightful, and gifted woman are one in the same to him and it really feels good to be supported the way he supports me. We do have non-attachment related conflict related specifically to more problematic ADHD traits, but also have made a lot of progress with how we approach those conflicts. Here are some areas of conflict we have experienced and are learning to navigate constructively: Time management/hyper focus . He has a tendency to lose track of time and become hyper focused which can lead to frustration and disappointment on my end if he makes us late for something, keeps me waiting when I'm hungry (like, we have a date and he's still off doing something and I'm starved as hell and tired, haven't heard from him and feeling resentful because I feel forgotten, blah blah). How it's evolved: In the past, a pattern of this triggered anger and avoidance in me. I'd let him feel my irritation and he'd get defensive. Fight ensues. Then I began to put it all together. I talked to him about ADHD, in an attempt to support him, and work out the kinks. He felt defensive and rejected a label BUT... acknowledged that leaving me hanging was not his intention and was painful for me(and for him) Solution- a reminder or alarm on his phone to help him stay in track. Over time this has become (almost) a non issue! He's a hoarder, messy. (Not filth, just small piles of random chaos). This is an issue that we are approaching as a couple. Right now, we spend our together time in his personal space, instead of mine because of logistics. I recognize it's his space and his business, but also have my own needs for organization and the arrangement of my personal space, which helps me feel calm and balanced and most at ease. I used to fear the idea of cohabiting in the future, because of our vastly different lifestyles related to our personal space. I initiated a difficult conversation about this at one point, because it just kind of came to a head. I had to balance his needs and choices (and real struggles/limitations) with my own needs and wants, and asked for a compromise or at least a acknowledgement of this as an obstacle. How it's evolving: He likes and does not resent my re-organizing of the space, he likes the feeling of home and the pleasant esthetic I've introduced to his space. He acknowledges the clutter and messiness as something undesirable that he would like very much to correct, because he also enjoys organization but has difficulty achieving it. We have an open understanding that this is something we can and will approach as partners, with him tackling the task and me not taking the mom role with it- a common trap for an adhd couple is to fall into that parent child dynamic and we are aware of that on both ends. I will not over function, he will not persistently avoid the challenge. It's up to him to find a way to manage his stuff and I will be helpful and supportive. This is something we are doing to pave the way for happy cohabitation in the future. Impulsiveness, failure to plan adequately: This has resulted in some snafus! Short version: Some "I told you so!" , emotionally charged moments have evolved into more partnering on plans so that we can combine his inspiration with my pragmatic approach. More teamwork, more planning discussions, more adopting my way of doing things because I'm a more thorough planner and able to anticipate and head off difficulty, I excel at it as an HSP. He brings the vision and makes a lot happen, I help it happen less chaotically lol. It's actually a lot of fun to develop as a team, we are having a great time bringing the best of the ADHD and the best of the HSP personalities together. We are so opposite in some ways, it could spell the end of the relationship! But we have opted to make it something really special that capitalizes on our respective strengths. There are more, but there is nothing that we can't turn into an opportunity to get stronger and better as a couple. The payoff is worth it, for both of us. A sense of humor has proven very helpful, on both sides. We are able to laugh at ourselves, and playful interaction about this stuff is pretty common. It's been rough, really rough at times but that has softened as we have built trust and true camaraderie as a couple. It takes me a while to answer compared to other posters for obvoius reasons and I prefer to take my time to do it. Thanks for your insight! It's nice to see a fair and mature approach to both HSP and ADHD in your relationship. Definitely not a fairy tale, but a true story of work and dedication. Moreover I can see you practice the concept of "good enough" changes to make things work out, not trying to impose radical behavioural shifts, that's a big trigger to me and I turn deffensive. I am willing to accept some changes with support and comprehension, but I won't accept to be someone I can't be, specially when the only "support" I get is "all you have to do to change is wanting to change" LOL. I now see more clearly how some aspects of ADHD can bring conflict, especially those related to time managing and failure to plan. When I am hyperfocused in getting something done, I can easily forget or postpone about eating, sleeping, hanging out with friends, etc. Not very nice to have someone wait while starving haha. I've never thought about the mom role, but it's a bit scary to fall into that trap. I struggled so much at home to be a functional man. She didn't let me cook, she would go at night and take the dishes out of the dishcleaner because she didn't like the way I organized it, she would re-clean everything afterwards because I couldn't fit her high standards of perfection. It ended up in me giving up about doing a shit at home and avoiding to be at home as much as possible because they would blame me about not doing a shit everytime they got the chance to do it and I would get triggered and defensive.
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Post by sorgin on Apr 19, 2022 16:25:20 GMT
I have a tightness/pressure in my stomach as well when I'm stressed or experiencing trauma. With the SE she had me relax and breathe then she spoke and I can't remember exactly but my breath was like a whitish light and I could see the area that was tight, she asked me to describe it and I could see it looked pear shaped to me and the top was sunken in like an over aged fruit on hanging on the vine still. She then suggested it was maybe the unborn version of me and I think asked or suggested I hold/ comfort that version of myself. It felt pretty good and the visualization came fast and pretty clearly for me. If I thought to rationally about it it would fade a bit but if I relaxed and focused on the vision/breathing/trying to feel it stayed clear and pretty easy the whole time. I still had a hard time vocalizing and needs. It crazy actually how hard that is. And feeling my body or attaching emotions is still hard. I'm pretty detached from them both and have been for so long. I've been recommended SE in this forum several times as it works well for FA. I wish it works well for you in the long run. If you don't mind I'd like to ask you how good your improvements are in regard to SE when you've had several sesions.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 16:40:41 GMT
I love that you are secure in your neuro divergence! I can somewhat relate because having strong HSP traits is also to be different from the "norm", and conveys a set of difficulties but also some strengths and gifts that I appreciate. My boyfriend takes me as I am as well, the "high maintenance" sensitive woman and the empathetic, insightful, and gifted woman are one in the same to him and it really feels good to be supported the way he supports me. We do have non-attachment related conflict related specifically to more problematic ADHD traits, but also have made a lot of progress with how we approach those conflicts. Here are some areas of conflict we have experienced and are learning to navigate constructively: Time management/hyper focus . He has a tendency to lose track of time and become hyper focused which can lead to frustration and disappointment on my end if he makes us late for something, keeps me waiting when I'm hungry (like, we have a date and he's still off doing something and I'm starved as hell and tired, haven't heard from him and feeling resentful because I feel forgotten, blah blah). How it's evolved: In the past, a pattern of this triggered anger and avoidance in me. I'd let him feel my irritation and he'd get defensive. Fight ensues. Then I began to put it all together. I talked to him about ADHD, in an attempt to support him, and work out the kinks. He felt defensive and rejected a label BUT... acknowledged that leaving me hanging was not his intention and was painful for me(and for him) Solution- a reminder or alarm on his phone to help him stay in track. Over time this has become (almost) a non issue! He's a hoarder, messy. (Not filth, just small piles of random chaos). This is an issue that we are approaching as a couple. Right now, we spend our together time in his personal space, instead of mine because of logistics. I recognize it's his space and his business, but also have my own needs for organization and the arrangement of my personal space, which helps me feel calm and balanced and most at ease. I used to fear the idea of cohabiting in the future, because of our vastly different lifestyles related to our personal space. I initiated a difficult conversation about this at one point, because it just kind of came to a head. I had to balance his needs and choices (and real struggles/limitations) with my own needs and wants, and asked for a compromise or at least a acknowledgement of this as an obstacle. How it's evolving: He likes and does not resent my re-organizing of the space, he likes the feeling of home and the pleasant esthetic I've introduced to his space. He acknowledges the clutter and messiness as something undesirable that he would like very much to correct, because he also enjoys organization but has difficulty achieving it. We have an open understanding that this is something we can and will approach as partners, with him tackling the task and me not taking the mom role with it- a common trap for an adhd couple is to fall into that parent child dynamic and we are aware of that on both ends. I will not over function, he will not persistently avoid the challenge. It's up to him to find a way to manage his stuff and I will be helpful and supportive. This is something we are doing to pave the way for happy cohabitation in the future. Impulsiveness, failure to plan adequately: This has resulted in some snafus! Short version: Some "I told you so!" , emotionally charged moments have evolved into more partnering on plans so that we can combine his inspiration with my pragmatic approach. More teamwork, more planning discussions, more adopting my way of doing things because I'm a more thorough planner and able to anticipate and head off difficulty, I excel at it as an HSP. He brings the vision and makes a lot happen, I help it happen less chaotically lol. It's actually a lot of fun to develop as a team, we are having a great time bringing the best of the ADHD and the best of the HSP personalities together. We are so opposite in some ways, it could spell the end of the relationship! But we have opted to make it something really special that capitalizes on our respective strengths. There are more, but there is nothing that we can't turn into an opportunity to get stronger and better as a couple. The payoff is worth it, for both of us. A sense of humor has proven very helpful, on both sides. We are able to laugh at ourselves, and playful interaction about this stuff is pretty common. It's been rough, really rough at times but that has softened as we have built trust and true camaraderie as a couple. It takes me a while to answer compared to other posters for obvoius reasons and I prefer to take my time to do it. Thanks for your insight! It's nice to see a fair and mature approach to both HSP and ADHD in your relationship. Definitely not a fairy tale, but a true story of work and dedication. Moreover I can see you practice the concept of "good enough" changes to make things work out, not trying to impose radical behavioural shifts, that's a big trigger to me and I turn deffensive. I am willing to accept some changes with support and comprehension, but I won't accept to be someone I can't be, specially when the only "support" I get is "all you have to do to change is wanting to change" LOL. I now see more clearly how some aspects of ADHD can bring conflict, especially those related to time managing and failure to plan. When I am hyperfocused in getting something done, I can easily forget or postpone about eating, sleeping, hanging out with friends, etc. Not very nice to have someone wait while starving haha. I've never thought about the mom role, but it's a bit scary to fall into that trap. I struggled so much at home to be a functional man. She didn't let me cook, she would go at night and take the dishes out of the dishcleaner because she didn't like the way I organized it, she would re-clean everything afterwards because I couldn't fit her high standards of perfection. It ended up in me giving up about doing a shit at home and avoiding to be at home as much as possible because they would blame me about not doing a shit everytime they got the chance to do it and I would get triggered and defensive. Oh yeah, definitely we are happy with the "Good enough!" approach, and I don't sweat the small stuff. Acrually, he's more picky about what I do haha! If i drop popcorn or leave a drawer open or something he's on it. 😂 When it comes to getting chores done- honestly I do most of the chores because it's how I tick , I keep up on stuff like that. He doesn't. But, rather than get annoyed with him not having the initiative, and rather than doing something I'm to tired to do myself, or don't feel I should have to do myself, I just invite him to do it with me. "Hey babe, how bout we do the dishes together?". He's always happy to come help and we make it a couple thing. I'm sure he appreciates not being "mommed" about it, and frankly I don't want to be a mama to a man, I respect he's a man and he's got great manly traits I find sexy and impressive and I'm not going to let that get overshadowed by kitchen habits. Really, i think he's hot for all the ways he's different from me and there are things that are a little bit of a pain in the ass but roses and thorns, you know how it goes. Same is true in reverse, so it works out. And we have worked together to overcome this stuff, as I mentioned very rough at times but we both have some emotional intelligence around it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2022 16:42:21 GMT
That said, I won't want him piling up stuff in our eventual shared living space without regard to how it impacts me, so we are working though that presently. I have full faith we will find a happy middle ground.
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Post by rykus9 on Apr 19, 2022 17:20:58 GMT
I found for me having another space I can have a bit of escape in is not necessary but is an advantage. Even if it's an outside space. I am going to have projects. They are going to look and be messy. I naturally will spread this mess farther and farther into my life the longer I stay in my head. The longer I'm in my head the less connected I am to my body and the needs of others. Having any sort of daily routine helps me a lot. Wake up time.shower.eat even if drinking a Suplement like a smoothie. Then continue my project. Otherwise my life tends to get messy. I also have this battle with partners, that my levels of affection,mindfulness and level of contributions can be hard for certain people. I think @introverttemporary has it right in that the workload just needs to be kind of shared evenly and the other person needs to be appreciated for what they bring and in return appreciate the person for the support and what they can bring. As an avoidant being encouraged to participate is very helpful for me, but I am still way better at hauling dirt, building, most house maintenance other than cleaning. I am good at all those but slower, takes me 5x as long to do dishes etc. It's hard but just being mindful that the AP person.likely did do a lot of work and may be better at it. When they lash out acknowledge and appreciate them. Give them physical reassurance. Then at a notbto distant time or maybe even every day or 2 ask what is something you could do to be supportive. Try to be consistent. Funny how closely so many of our relationship dynamics come into play too. It is super interesting reading all the posts on the forum. I learned way more than I ever could reading the basic attachment theory! sorgin I will definitely keep my journey with the se therapy going on my thread. I have been over posting later because I'm stressed so I'm trying to limit myself to there for the most part other than to offer support or the odd post but I can't help myself sometimes.
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