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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 19:02:39 GMT
Kristyrose, i so feel you. Even as an avoidant myself i have felt that way with a more entrenched avoidant. it’s crazy, don’t let labels fool you, unrequited love hurts no matter who is doing the loving or leaving. I think you are strong and wise and sincere and your own best qualities will get your through this if you don’t abandon them. Keep grieving, cry your guts out. Tears teach you things if you listen in the quiet afterwards. This will all make sense to you later, keep going through the dark parts you are going to be ok.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 24, 2018 19:15:34 GMT
Kristyrose, i so feel you. Even as an avoidant myself i have felt that way with a more entrenched avoidant. it’s crazy, don’t let labels fool you, unrequited love hurts no matter who is doing the loving or leaving. I think you are strong and wise and sincere and your own best qualities will get your through this if you don’t abandon them. Keep grieving, cry your guts out. Tears teach you things if you listen in the quiet afterwards. This will all make sense to you later, keep going through the dark parts you are going to be ok. thank you so much for these very kind and wise words. I do not see him as the bad guy, just as much as I do not see myself as a victim, i just loved him so much and had hoped he felt the same. he told me once that he only felt love for another person 1 time in his life and that it was a very fleeting feeling. in a way, i need to remember that he is hurting and struggles as well.
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Post by yasmin on Jan 24, 2018 19:18:17 GMT
Kristyrose, i so feel you. Even as an avoidant myself i have felt that way with a more entrenched avoidant. it’s crazy, don’t let labels fool you, unrequited love hurts no matter who is doing the loving or leaving. I think you are strong and wise and sincere and your own best qualities will get your through this if you don’t abandon them. Keep grieving, cry your guts out. Tears teach you things if you listen in the quiet afterwards. This will all make sense to you later, keep going through the dark parts you are going to be ok. This x 10000. I wish I could hug you now. It hurts but what pains you now will pain you less
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 19:30:36 GMT
Kristyrose, i know what you mean. That’s how i felt leaving my ex, also avoidant. I had grown so much during the course of the relationship, and what i learned was how it felt to love in a truer and deeper sense. But it was only possible because of a more tender and compassionate stance toward myself, coupled with the courage i found to be more authentically me. In the end, it really was my best traits that enabled me to let go, or at least become willing to let go and work toward that... my love and understanding of myself prevailed and allowed me to leave without hatred. In some ways that was more difficult but it was pure enough to facilitate real growth and healing in me. But nothing changes that feeling when you are looking at the charred remains of what you thought was... but wasn’t. Let this be your epiphany that inspires your own fearless journey into your own heart. Be gentle with yourself and just grieve it.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 24, 2018 19:33:42 GMT
Kristyrose, i so feel you. Even as an avoidant myself i have felt that way with a more entrenched avoidant. it’s crazy, don’t let labels fool you, unrequited love hurts no matter who is doing the loving or leaving. I think you are strong and wise and sincere and your own best qualities will get your through this if you don’t abandon them. Keep grieving, cry your guts out. Tears teach you things if you listen in the quiet afterwards. This will all make sense to you later, keep going through the dark parts you are going to be ok. This x 10000. I wish I could hug you now. It hurts but what pains you now will pain you less Yasmin, You have been such a constant support and a wise and thoughtful bug in my ear. I cannot thank you enough for being here for me. I am hugging you right back!
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 24, 2018 20:05:30 GMT
Kristyrose, i know what you mean. That’s how i felt leaving my ex, also avoidant. I had grown so much during the course of the relationship, and what i learned was how it felt to love in a truer and deeper sense. But it was only possible because of a more tender and compassionate stance toward myself, coupled with the courage i found to be more authentically me. In the end, it really was my best traits that enabled me to let go, or at least become willing to let go and work toward that... my love and understanding of myself prevailed and allowed me to leave without hatred. In some ways that was more difficult but it was pure enough to facilitate real growth and healing in me. But nothing changes that feeling when you are looking at the charred remains of what you thought was... but wasn’t. Let this be your epiphany that inspires your own fearless journey into your own heart. Be gentle with yourself and just grieve it. I feel that I have grown so much with this relationship as well. If there are any takeaways, one would be it made me face my anxious attachment style in a more head-on way and get real with how I show up to relationships. No one has ever triggered me like this, however, I now can see that it was a good thing because it made me slow down, be patient and love someone purely for maybe the first time in my life. He become someone I did not need, just someone I wanted and loved in a very pure way. I do not regret a moment of feeling that, because it felt so real to try and understand him, whilst working on myself. It taught me a lot about my own capacity to love, it is far greater than I knew. p.s. while i was typing this, a text came in from my ex asking about my morning and telling me about his. I know it is because I haven't been reaching out since our talk, he always is able to sense when i'm trying to focus on myself.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 20:28:12 GMT
Kristyrose, i know what you mean. That’s how i felt leaving my ex, also avoidant. I had grown so much during the course of the relationship, and what i learned was how it felt to love in a truer and deeper sense. But it was only possible because of a more tender and compassionate stance toward myself, coupled with the courage i found to be more authentically me. In the end, it really was my best traits that enabled me to let go, or at least become willing to let go and work toward that... my love and understanding of myself prevailed and allowed me to leave without hatred. In some ways that was more difficult but it was pure enough to facilitate real growth and healing in me. But nothing changes that feeling when you are looking at the charred remains of what you thought was... but wasn’t. Let this be your epiphany that inspires your own fearless journey into your own heart. Be gentle with yourself and just grieve it. I feel that I have grown so much with this relationship as well. If there are any takeaways, one would be it made me face my anxious attachment style in a more head-on way and get real with how I show up to relationships. No one has ever triggered me like this, however, I now can see that it was a good thing because it made me slow down, be patient and love someone purely for maybe the first time in my life. He become someone I did not need, just someone I wanted and loved in a very pure way. I do not regret a moment of feeling that, because it felt so real to try and understand him, whilst working on myself. It taught me a lot about my own capacity to love, it is far greater than I knew. p.s. while i was typing this, a text came in from my ex asking about my morning and telling me about his. I know it is because I haven't been reaching out since our talk, he always is able to sense when i'm trying to focus on myself. It’s so incredible how from two ends of the spectrum our experience through growth brought us to a similar place. I could have written what you wrote, only substitute “avoidant” for how i used to show up. Everything you said here really resonates with me. And funny, my ex just texted me too. Ha! But i feel ok, and part of that is because i have been keeping it real here. as long as i stay focused on the the next right thing my days are going pretty good. I am pretty sure i will always have avoidant nuances in my lifestyle in terms of my need and love of solitude and my independence, and honestly i love that stuff about me, i should say i embrace it because there are strengths in it, and maybe it’s just my personality - an extroverted introvert if you will, or some other blah blah label. The point is, the more authentic and vulnerable we get as individuals, the more we have in common it seems. That’s how i see it. i appreciate this thread a lot, it helps me too.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 21:10:02 GMT
Kristyrose, i know what you mean. That’s how i felt leaving my ex, also avoidant. I had grown so much during the course of the relationship, and what i learned was how it felt to love in a truer and deeper sense. But it was only possible because of a more tender and compassionate stance toward myself, coupled with the courage i found to be more authentically me. In the end, it really was my best traits that enabled me to let go, or at least become willing to let go and work toward that... my love and understanding of myself prevailed and allowed me to leave without hatred. In some ways that was more difficult but it was pure enough to facilitate real growth and healing in me. But nothing changes that feeling when you are looking at the charred remains of what you thought was... but wasn’t. Let this be your epiphany that inspires your own fearless journey into your own heart. Be gentle with yourself and just grieve it. I feel that I have grown so much with this relationship as well. If there are any takeaways, one would be it made me face my anxious attachment style in a more head-on way and get real with how I show up to relationships. No one has ever triggered me like this, however, I now can see that it was a good thing because it made me slow down, be patient and love someone purely for maybe the first time in my life. He become someone I did not need, just someone I wanted and loved in a very pure way. I do not regret a moment of feeling that, because it felt so real to try and understand him, whilst working on myself. It taught me a lot about my own capacity to love, it is far greater than I knew. p.s. while i was typing this, a text came in from my ex asking about my morning and telling me about his. I know it is because I haven't been reaching out since our talk, he always is able to sense when i'm trying to focus on myself. Kristyrose, i reflected on this some more and you may or may not be able to relate- Because of the genuine growth and insight I experienced during the course of this relationship, i felt a real sense of indignance when I realized that in spite of my sincerity and raw effort, the relationship just couldn’t be sustained in a healthy way. It was a hard blow, sent me reeling the same way you described. I am coming to terms with it, and find hope in the belief that I too have a much deeper capacity for love than I realized. On the other hand, there is a real sense of shutting down and going it alone that appeals to me too. So i continue to be conflicted, which is really natural at this point of a grief process for anyone I think.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 24, 2018 21:13:06 GMT
It’s so incredible how from two ends of the spectrum our experience through growth brought us to a similar place. I could have written what you wrote, only substitute “avoidant” for how i used to show up. Everything you said here really resonates with me. And funny, my ex just texted me too. Ha! But i feel ok, and part of that is because i have been keeping it real here. as long as i stay focused on the the next right thing my days are going pretty good. I am pretty sure i will always have avoidant nuances in my lifestyle in terms of my need and love of solitude and my independence, and honestly i love that stuff about me, i should say i embrace it because there are strengths in it, and maybe it’s just my personality - an extroverted introvert if you will, or some other blah blah label. The point is, the more authentic and vulnerable we get as individuals, the more we have in common it seems. That’s how i see it. i appreciate this thread a lot, it helps me too. I think those aspects of avoidant style is what I wish I had more of! I never thought that was something my ex needed to change, in fact, it was because of him I learned to love my own time alone. :-) I'm so glad we are having this discussion and even more happy to hear this thread helps you as well! I agree wholeheartedly about how being vulnerable and authentic to ourselves, we see our commonalities. I do not feel angry towards my ex because we were two sides of the same coin. I admired certain aspects of him and I'd like to think he felt the same of me.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 24, 2018 21:19:43 GMT
Kristyrose, i reflected on this some more and you may or may not be able to relate- Because of the genuine growth and insight I experienced during the course of this relationship, i felt a real sense of indignance when I realized that in spite of my sincerity and raw effort, the relationship just couldn’t be sustained in a healthy way. It was a hard blow, sent me reeling the same way you described. I am coming to terms with it, and find hope in the belief that I too have a much deeper capacity for love than I realized. On the other hand, there is a real sense of shutting down and going it alone that appeals to me too. So i continue to be conflicted, which is really natural at this point of a grief process for anyone I think. I can totally relate actually! I started feeling this way for the past month or so, which then prompted me to have this conversation that I was absolutely dreading!!! I knew deep down it could end things, but I had gotten to a point where going along with a sort of non-reality with my ex, was too much of a betrayal to myself. Too painful. And, as much as I would love for him to want to work on things, there is this feeling I also have of shutting down and wanting to be alone. Friends keep telling me to try and date now, but I know that I cannot give anyone any love right now; i need to give it to the person who needs it to the most, me. I love this quote by Anais Nin: "And the day came when the risk to remain tight in a bud was more painful than the risk it took to blossom"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2018 21:25:43 GMT
I’m sure he did. My ex and i had many sincere talks about what we liked and admired in each other, not all similarities of course, our attachment styles were only facets of each of us, there is so much more to a person than that.My ex really appreciated and craved the nurturing side of me that i allowed to unfold as I became more authentic. It’s a huge part of me that was really actually painful to reveal because it made me feel super vulnerable and naked in a way. He appreciated my thought processes and my openness to who he is. I am sure you exhibited a lot of great traits to him that he truly appreciated, just can’t reciprocate.
It all is pretty poignant, when it isn’t black and white. Lots of pretty shades in there. Still painful, but it isn’t completely ugly and not all is lost.
Off to work, hang in there today and thank you for sharing your experience here.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 24, 2018 21:34:41 GMT
thank YOU for sharing yours as well and for the amazing support.
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Post by yasmin on Jan 24, 2018 23:07:04 GMT
If you don't feel right with no contact how about defining what friendship means for you and having that?
If you love him the maybe him being part of your life in a capacity that works for you both is possible?
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 24, 2018 23:52:32 GMT
If you don't feel right with no contact how about defining what friendship means for you and having that? If you love him the maybe him being part of your life in a capacity that works for you both is possible? When I read your post a bit ago I started to think what I'd feel comfortable with. I basically would be fine with carrying on how we do now, even with the friends title, however, that fact that he says he is not actively dating, just open to it, makes me feel like some sort of contingency plan. Like once he finds the perfect one, I will be given my termination papers so to speak. I realize asking him to carry on with me in the same way, as "friends" now, but not date others is the same as asking him to be in a relationship with me. So, I guess there is no way I can think of that could work. Now if he were to say he's not interested in dating others for a time, then I may consider still hanging out as we are, until one of us is ready to actually start dating and/or really move on, then we part ways. That also sounds a bit unrealistic, however, I just can't fathom him being with someone else right now. Hurts too much. he said if we continue to hang out, it is with the understanding we can both date and we must tell the other person if we decide we are ready to be physical with said person. That to me sounds so incredibly awful, i definitely can't do that.
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Post by lucy on Jan 25, 2018 8:05:16 GMT
It takes a very long time to be good friends with an ex, who you were in love with. I am still mates with most of my ex and to various degrees the process to get there has been awful. Yet same time I am glad we got there in the end. But it takes a long time. Years! It does help as well though to put things in perspective. Like I will talk to J, who 7yrs ago broke me into pieces...said he didnt want to be in relationship...then dated someone else a few months later...was awful time for me. I did some therapy. Used to get panic attacks. He only lives few doors away so I always knew when her car was there.... Anyway, 7yrs forward we are great mates now. I can sob to him about my ex (? fuck knows what we are atm !) and he will listen and try give advise. And I sometimes like to think ahead how this currebtnt phase will be over and I can laugh about what I am going through atm...the way J and I sometimes laugh about what happened 7yrs ago. But as I said its a long long rocky road to get there
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