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Post by kristyrose on Jan 25, 2018 18:51:17 GMT
Hi Lucy,
Indeed it does. It took me and my ex husband about 6 years or so to be friends and now we feel more like family. As for my current ex, I never felt close enough to him to want to be his friend and right now I'm just too hurt to even think about it. But I hear you, its amazing how we can look back and definitely laugh about things and see where growth has occurred!
I think that's a good idea to think about how this is a moment in time, it will eventually pass and I will be on the other things in my life. :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 19:02:09 GMT
been thinking about you as i go about my day Kristyrose. we are in a similar spot, mine is not quite as fresh but still fresh enough to be uncomfortable. i catch myself playing all kinds of mental games with myself, to avoid finality. frustrating. there is nothing in me that wants to reach out and fix things, it’s just there in my mind as if it isn’t really over. I haven’t been through a relationship or breakup of this nature and today is just not a great day. anyway, thinking of you too. One day at a time.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 25, 2018 19:08:52 GMT
been thinking about you as i go about my day Kristyrose. we are in a similar spot, mine is not quite as fresh but still fresh enough to be uncomfortable. i catch myself playing all kinds of mental games with myself, to avoid finality. frustrating. there is nothing in me that wants to reach out and fix things, it’s just there in my mind as if it isn’t really over. I haven’t been through a relationship or breakup of this nature and today is just not a great day. anyway, thinking of you too. One day at a time. hey there. I am so with you today. my ex has been texting me non-stop since yesterday even sending me a pic of his nephew who made his high school baseball team. he hasn't sent me family pics in a long time, but my guess is because i am not being as responsive. i am being polite, but not my usual warmth. not on purpose either, just hurting and don't have much in me right now. we are supposed to go to a show tonight, i got the tickets months ago, and he keeps texting me asking if I'm excited. i suppose he wants to be sure he's not walking into something uncomfortable, but all i can do is my best. I keep thinking its not over, then i have to remind myself that it is. I keep wanting to negotiate with him, but i can't. seems there isn't much left with us. so, i completely understand the mental games. thinking of you as well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 19:18:57 GMT
oh, that sounds hard. I typically don’t stay away from the place my ex and i have in common and just take a run-in in stride if it happens, but i realize that this weekend i need to keep the distance and let things sink in. Let it be real. We have been able to pull back together with no real change (just relief) and I know that time has passed for me. I know that’s a sign of getting healthier, but i feel like i am in some kind of slowed down time warp or something. Like....here it is. this is the new normal. yep, this is it. sitting with feelings but i am not sure what they are. sharing the experience here helps, and i am not trying to make it about me i am just offering myself as a comrade to you. knowing that i am doing this the best way i can and you are too. Hugs and high fives!
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 25, 2018 19:24:59 GMT
oh, that sounds hard. I typically don’t stay away from the place my ex and i have in common and just take a run-in in stride if it happens, but i realize that this weekend i need to keep the distance and let things sink in. Let it be real. We have been able to pull back together with no real change (just relief) and I know that time has passed for me. I know that’s a sign of getting healthier, but i feel like i am in some kind of slowed down time warp or something. Like....here it is. this is the new normal. yep, this is it. sitting with feelings but i am not sure what they are. sharing the experience here helps, and i am not trying to make it about me i am just offering myself as a comrade to you. knowing that i am doing this the best way i can and you are too. Hugs and high fives! It is entirely OK to talk about what you are going through. We are sharing our experiences and providing good support for one another. So do not worry! Let it out! :-) mine is too fresh to feel like i can say this is the new normal, but, i totally get it because when my ex first broke up with me back in April of last yr after 2 yrs, i spent 2 months without any contact and i thought, ok, this is my new normal. it was so hard, but in hindsight i wish i had stayed in that place and not gone backwards the past 9 months. So, what I'm getting at, is that you are taking amazingly strong steps to honor those feelings you are having. by saying, ok this weekend i need to stay away and take care of me, you are continuing to move forward into the unknown and that is incredibly brave. hugs!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 19:32:15 GMT
I’m sorry he has amped up the contact and is being so casual, AS IF you could be excited about going to a long planned event facing the rejection you feel. I recognize the behavior, as one of my own defenses. That’s actually why i want to pull back and not play those games with his head and my head. I understand that that kind of behavior in me is completely defensive and putting a bandaid over a serious wound. It’s true that it has worked for me in the past to soothe my ego and get me by, but that doesn’t fit with the growth i have undergone and it makes me feel icky and dishonest and like i am losing ground emotionally. And it’s just not good for either of us. Thats why it’s a rough day, i am physically and emotionally tired and am trying to deny myself quick fixes. not every day is rough, some days i have a brighter or at least more balanced perspective. The practical stuff like good self care and healthy habits really are going to make a difference this time, if i can just get through days like this without backtracking too much. at the same time trying to be gentle with myself and allow the process. sometimes there’s just nothing to do but be with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 19:35:31 GMT
and thank you for those words of encouragement. i look at how you are handling your situation and i admire you, i truly get how stunned you are. wow, i do know and it makes me catch my breath for you. You are doing great, strong and brave and raw and beautiful.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 25, 2018 20:22:32 GMT
I’m sorry he has amped up the contact and is being so casual, AS IF you could be excited about going to a long planned event facing the rejection you feel. I recognize the behavior, as one of my own defenses. That’s actually why i want to pull back and not play those games with his head and my head. I understand that that kind of behavior in me is completely defensive and putting a bandaid over a serious wound. It’s true that it has worked for me in the past to soothe my ego and get me by, but that doesn’t fit with the growth i have undergone and it makes me feel icky and dishonest and like i am losing ground emotionally. And it’s just not good for either of us. Thats why it’s a rough day, i am physically and emotionally tired and am trying to deny myself quick fixes. not every day is rough, some days i have a brighter or at least more balanced perspective. The practical stuff like good self care and healthy habits really are going to make a difference this time, if i can just get through days like this without backtracking too much. at the same time trying to be gentle with myself and allow the process. sometimes there’s just nothing to do but be with it. Yeah it is so hard to understand why he does this, reaches out even more. I'm trying to understand and not assume he is doing anything hurtful on purpose, but it comes across as insensitive. i want to hear from him of course, but i have to protect myself because it gets my hopes up again that he truly can't be away from me. I really truly admire how you are handling your feelings. The fact that you catch yourself when you feel the pull towards old habits is really amazing. I am learning to do the same! It takes a lot of work,but starts to get easier over time. the self care is ideal for times like these. I think being with it, is truly all we can do. i like to literally just take one day at a time. i tend to think about the future, the weeks to come, the days etc., but taking one day at a time takes the pressure off.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 25, 2018 20:23:20 GMT
and thank you for those words of encouragement. i look at how you are handling your situation and i admire you, i truly get how stunned you are. wow, i do know and it makes me catch my breath for you. You are doing great, strong and brave and raw and beautiful. thank you so much for these words.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 20:29:17 GMT
Kristyrose, i don’t believe he is intentionally trying to hurt you. When i have done something like that it really has been an attempt to distance myself from feelings. It’s kind of acting as if everything is better than it is. i really can’t speak for him of course, our situations are different in that i am more in your position this time around than his! it’s confusing, all of it. More later, i have to work for a bit
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 25, 2018 20:47:43 GMT
Kristyrose, i don’t believe he is intentionally trying to hurt you. When i have done something like that it really has been an attempt to distance myself from feelings. It’s kind of acting as if everything is better than it is. i really can’t speak for him of course, our situations are different in that i am more in your position this time around than his! it’s confusing, all of it. More later, i have to work for a bit Yeah, I don't think he is either. I always get the sense he is trying to work out something internally, and I have to catch myself and not make it about me. I realize there were times I was acting a certain way with him, only to realize i was working out my anxious feelings internally as well. I guess the clear pattern of him reaching out more every single time i try to get some distance, whether we are in a good place or not can be really hard to understand. I've asked him about it, but he refuses to acknowledge it happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2018 22:17:21 GMT
i know i have abandonment issues triggered even when i end things and that impacts my behavior quite a bit.
i am struggling with a block of feelings i don’t have a name for.
i literally don’t know what it is but it is painful. conflicted.
going to rest from it for a little bit! big hugs. i appreciate you so much.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 25, 2018 23:36:30 GMT
i know i have abandonment issues triggered even when i end things and that impacts my behavior quite a bit. i am struggling with a block of feelings i don’t have a name for. i literally don’t know what it is but it is painful. conflicted. going to rest from it for a little bit! big hugs. i appreciate you so much. I hope you are resting as I type this. I definitely struggle with abandonment issues and get triggered the same way, both ending things and being left. i think what has been so powerful with my ex is that after he left, he came back with so much passion and attention, I was blindsided and felt so full at that point. I now have more insight so i can only assume he too was going through a tough internal struggle. however, i can only try and understand my own and that is the work i am more dedicated to at this point in time. in terms of how you are feeling, i was thinking on this a bit and i wonder if you are feeling some anxiety about the changes you are both feeling and pursuing in your life? maybe some anxiety and pain, fear of the unknown? I ask this because i've had a mixture of those feelings on and off the past 9 months and sometimes they get tangled up and it all feels exhausting and in some strange way, quite catastrophic. I think rest and self-care for us both is key right now. I also think knowing we are here for one another in this space, offers a kind of comfort maybe others who have not been on this forum can truly understand. i appreciate it you so very much, and i'm here.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 0:02:57 GMT
thank you kristyrose, i was trying to rest but i am thinking instead. when i stop trying to tell myself how i SHOULD be feeling, i realize it’s simple sadness and disappointment. I rarely feel anxious these days, because i generally have a lot of confidence in things working out in the big picture and enjoy most challenges, so what i am feeling is more a let down feeling. I also feel a little bit of shame about not having this figured out yet when other people seem to. I have a lot of competencies but this not one.
on the other hand, i do remind myself how far i have come and that this is just another stage. and it’s just a portion of my life, i am able and do compartmentalize but i don’t think that is necessarily bad because it makes things manageable if there is something very difficult, and it has made me able to accomplish things while hurting. that’s been very helpful through the trauma i have had.
I am remembering something he said when i broke it off. He is even more avoidant than i am so it was kind of stunning. He said, you make ending this look so easy. I was so surprised. I thought he could see me bleeding out.
I feel sad that he thinks i had such an easy time walking away from him, but trying to explain it to him puts us on the merry go round. I did tell him it was wrenching but that i had to stop investing in what was providing no security to me. So, i know he is hurting and he has told me he misses so much about me but deals with it by keeping busy. i know he is hurting a lot and i wish we both were better.
I also appreciate you so much. I have not had such a painful ending before and i have always been quite stoic about things, to people around me. Today i told a friend how much i was hurting and she was so supportive too. She’s the only one i told so far, it’s been a month. I am glad i am not dealing with it all by myself. i mean, i told people i broke up with him but didn’t say how i really felt about it. i haven’t even told my therapist yet because i was working so hard on my issues i thought it would work. i don’t want to talk to her yet because i feel somehow embarrassed. i don’t feel embarrassed about my effort i feel embarrassed about my optimism.
Also i feel mad about some things on the forum that i encountered when i got here but i hope it’s behind me so i can just continue to be here, i feel so sad.
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Post by kristyrose on Jan 26, 2018 0:16:43 GMT
well, i must tell you that you have absolutely NOTHING to be ashamed or embarrassed about. I hear ya, its a terrible trap we can put ourselves in. I have felt almost 100% ashamed of myself and how i have shown up with my ex. it has only served to cause me more pain. I reduced myself to being a weak desperate person, but i'm learning that the only safe space is the one I create. I too came from trauma and abuse as a child and the core lessons i learned were that my needs and feelings do not matter. so now i'm working so very hard to stop believe that.
I am so incredibly impressed with how you are working through all of this and even more so, its impressive how in touch you are with your feelings and your own behavior with your ex. Do you realize how hard that is for others to do? Most won't even shine a light in that dark corner, but you do! you take the plunge and advocate for yourself. Of course it takes time! omg every day i scold myself, I've been in therapy 6 years doing EMDR on top of that for a year and here I am still struggling, so i have to slow down and remind myself that I'm trying to undo 38 years of pain. won't happen overnight, but i'm here and so are you. I'm proud of us both!!!!
that being said, feeling sad is an incredibly painful process, so be as kind to yourself as you can possibly muster. never ever feel embarrassed about optimism. I felt so much hope my ex would come back and love me, that i literally lived off of it! and you know? its ok. i never want to not have hope that someone can love me as much as I love them.
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