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Post by faithopelove on Oct 28, 2018 16:30:56 GMT
I didn't sleep well...was up really, really late...Halloween party...great time...just tired.....so feelings come to the surface. I am not secure, not with B....disconnection feels unacceptable...it feels like letting him down...it feels like giving up when I told him I would always be there for him.....I have been fighting the desire to reach out...to explain myself and some of the things I said that he may not have received in the manner I meant it...to clarify and wash over the AP ickiness and ensure we are ok. It has been such a challenging week....and I have handled it much better then I have in the past.....which I am incredibly proud of. I can speak to the feelings and let them wash over me and feel them without judgement no matter how child like them seem. I am admittedly surprised how little my feelings about B have changed since being on the medication...but the one thing I am incredibly grateful for is now,..I can access reason...I can be curious as I feel just horrible. So I am trying to really understand who B represents...because I think he is mom and dad if that makes any sense. The reason that is important is that that wound is fresh even though it was decades ago so I know I want to address it....but when I try to explore the who...it feels like it is strictly about B. In any event....I think I have gone on a bit of a tangent......I am missing B...but thank goodness, writing this out has helped me get a bit unstuck...I have loosened the grip on my fixation so to speak...and that is a good thing for me today. So I can survive another day of no contact...but this is a day by day and often hour by hour struggle. Sending you hugs faithopelove . Hoping you are having a better day. Hugs right back at ya, tnr9 🙂💕 I’m glad you’re having a better day- journaling or writing helps me process everything. I completely relate to what you said about the desire to reconnect and also the nagging ruminating. It’s the worse!! I feel like it must be such a primal and childish part of me- searching for that home base, anchor and security that secure children find in their parents. Those anxious thoughts that won’t quiet until we know everything is ok. I listened to a few good Abraham Hicks videos today and that really helped. She’s a helpful resource to me...and It’s important and good for us to recognize our progress!! 💗 Here’s the Abraham Hick’s video on not being reactive- great video for any AP. youtu.be/ZG8RtfpCBEI
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2018 16:33:31 GMT
tnr9 I think of a quote in the 'Attached' book that says something like "never underestimate the power of an activated attachment system". It's one of the most painful experiences I personally have experienced, feeling like a live wire just buzzing with anxiety, and this hollow doom just bellowing from within you, and waves of fear crashing around you. Another quote from the book says something like "dependency is not a choice, it's a fact" - if B has been assigned a position in your head and heart as an attachment figure that represents love and validation, it's going to be a painful process for you to go through if he is not a reliable source of either of those things, through no fault of his own. The way to move toward secure is through the consistency and dependency of an attachment figure, creating that new experience of healthy attachment that can show you the goodness of your own dependency and help regulate you... if we're consistently surrounded by people who aren't able to do this for us, I think especially too if we have unconsciously assigned someone the role of primary attachment without even making a conscious decision to do that, I think whether we like it or not, it is going to have a negative effect on us in an attachment sense... I want to give you a great piece of advice but I don't know what I could offer. Are you in therapy, or do you have consistent attachment figures in your life who can meet your needs emotionally? The way that I have moved more towards secure from AP/FA is by having compassion for myself and surrendering to defeat with friendships with people I am in love with who also trigger my attachment wounds, because I know for me that it just slides me more over to the AP end of the continuum and away from secure and I feel that parenting myself also means being firm with myself. This may not even be what you want, and you have the right to decide different for yourself, but I could not do what you are doing, I would experience the longing to be crippling. I hope whatever I have said has some helpfulness to it, even if it is just something that helps you realise what you want because it contrasts what you want
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Post by tnr9 on Oct 28, 2018 18:53:22 GMT
Thanks bloom ....this situation with B is rather new territory for me....it isn't to say that I have been able to avoid this type of desperation for contact with an ex before...it's that this is the first time that I am trying to work towards a more healthy approach to it. I do have compassion for myself...and I realize that the need to be known...the desire to be honest and real and not play games or sugar coat things is actually a very good thing. I also realize that my doom thought process...he will avoid me now because I am real...is all coming from myself.....i always interpret silence in a very negative way instead of it being neutral or good. In the end..you are correct...I have made B a VIP in my life and to deny that will not help me progress and instead creates a conflict within myself. He is a VIP so I want to figure out what to do with those feelings that get stirred up....the process continues.
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Post by notalone on Jan 3, 2019 16:09:13 GMT
Id really try to cut it all off. Be the Queen of Swords, you got this. Its going to hurt and you'll want to fight it tooth and nail but deep down you have the strength to cut the cord. I know how hard that part is as Im a secure and I kept a cord attached far too long. Im still in fight mode with this because my cord cutting is still fresh. I know the total reality, I know I will find someone else, etc and its still a fight.
The contact and holding on is not healthy and will prolong any of your healing. deep down you know this too, you have to fight it and bring the Queen of Swords to cut that cord.
This is how most Secures I know move on, you cut it off, its how I do. We cant get out of their energy and fully move forward unless you cut the energy cord. Keeping the cord attached prolongs pain, longing, false hope, etc.
Keeping cords attached also blocks the universe from sending someone better, you're staying stuck in a 'karmic' cycle not learning the lesson so to speak. Take the lessons and break free so the universe will send you someone open and secure. This is a very interesting perspective for me...I always assumed that secure people could find a way back to friendship because there would be an understanding that things were not personal and each person was autonomous. I always viewed my inability to view B from that perspective as a weakness, a barrier...some kind of flaw in my design....after all...B seems able to view me as a friend without any mixed feeling (except for the physical attraction he brings up from time to time in a boyish way) and is able to hold me very loosely and at a distance...and I can't do that. I had hoped that in time it would get better..that I could be that fun loving friend who can simply hang with him without any expectation...just so I could have some level of contact with him....but every time I see him there are...ripples.....and I know they are not coming from him...they are coming from inside me. I keep praying that God will transform my heart so that I can love B the way He does...but that hasn't happened yet. So I feel like a failure. tnr9 As far as I'm concerned you are absolutely not a failure. I'm glad hearing the perspective of someone secure helped you see that struggling to let go is normal. I think one of the primary differences between secures and anxious are that anxious people tend to think something is wrong with them a lot of the time, when in reality, secures struggle with a lot of the same attachment issues anxious people do, they just don't make it harder on themselves by believing they're broken because of how they feel! I've done this a lot too, and I still do sometimes, but we need to stop it because we're just human like everyone else and thinking like this hurts! Try to remind yourself that we all struggle, it doesn't make you less, you're awesome, and if it's hard to believe yourself, just think of how many friends and family think so! They can't all be wrong
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Post by notalone on Jan 3, 2019 16:17:09 GMT
So...I have an incredibly AP question...there is this "thought" that if I had just been able to stick things out in the community he and I used to attend together (I am taking a break from it, he still attends) that I would have remained special to him....and now that I am not there, someone else has become his "rock" so to speak. Put another way..I used to feel as if I was important and special to him, even after we broke up and now I feel I am losing that to another girl (who is able to be a friend)...which is in part, driving a compulsion in me to stay in touch. Do you think my perspective is off base? I cannot seem to shake that on my own. I wouldn't say its just an AP thing, its human, Ive had similar types of thoughts. Your AP side is driving the compulsion to keep staying in contact though instead of cutting it off. Your AP side may be trapping you in these thoughts. Own them and move on from them. Tell yourself everyday you are special, you're awesome, Im going to find an open secure healthy man in time,(because you will when you let go of B, trust this, the universe will send him because your putting in the work on yourself) Ive become aware of myself. Becoming aware and working on things is huge, so much bigger than any man. See that hugeness!
Real reality for you... Focus on the real reality. Trust, this girl wont have him, no gal will until he does the work. His 'rock' is fake because hes not his own rock yet. Shes just a gal in the community he hangs with to fill some void and that void is his own attachment issues. Its not about you or her, its about him. If she goes down that road with him she will be where you and I are right now, he hasnt done the work yet. Even if shes a secure, hes still avoidant just like mine. Her secure-ness wont make him better nor will they have it better that what you had.
No gal will have my guy either until he does the work. Doesn't mean it wont bug me right now if he was dating someone though. Im still in my feels about him, its still 'fresh'. In time it wont bug me.
I feel bad for the next gal because she will probably be AP as thats what they tend to attract. I know Im not like others he dated because Im not AP. Hes used to being chased down and expected me to do the same and I didnt, I told him its not healthy more than once. His mom was also AP so thats what he saw, chasing.
You will have a place with him forever, you taught him lessons. I will have a place with mine too because Im not like the others.
8675309 - so well said! Bravo! I love this.
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