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Post by yasmin on Feb 17, 2018 21:00:26 GMT
We can try and ask the DAs to meet our parents and not call the APs back ๐
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Post by alpenglow on Feb 17, 2018 21:03:51 GMT
Haha! There won't be too many people at that meet up! Only the FAs might show up...well, half of them, depending on their mood for the day!
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Post by Jaeger on Feb 17, 2018 21:08:34 GMT
Haha! There won't be too many people at that meet up! Only the FAs might show up...well, half of them, depending on their mood for the day! Drinking alone it is then!
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Post by alpenglow on Feb 17, 2018 21:10:40 GMT
That's what secures do, just enjoying life Does anyone get my new avatar btw?
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Post by Jaeger on Feb 18, 2018 2:56:09 GMT
That's what secures do, just enjoying life Does anyone get my new avatar btw? In my professional opinion, those are paperclips
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2018 5:28:05 GMT
Haha! There won't be too many people at that meet up! Only the FAs might show up...well, half of them, depending on their mood for the day! Drinking alone it is then! Hey, Iโll mark my calendar! ๐โ โCancel meetup planโ ๐ซ๐ฃ๐
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Post by alpenglow on Feb 18, 2018 6:59:15 GMT
Those are ATTACHMENT paper clips. Three insecures on the left, entangled, and the secure one on the right, on its own, minding its business
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Post by alpenglow on Feb 20, 2018 18:59:05 GMT
End of story.
I went on a third date with that woman this evening. Despite everything that I wrote in my first post in this thread, I did feel less interested in her after the second date after all the serious talk we had. During the last hour that day, I felt less interested/connected and even felt like keeping the date shorter. But of course I reacted to all the attachment stuff, because I was projecting myself and wondering how things would work out between an AP and one who seemingly was FA.
This evening's date was much shorter. Similar to the first one, in a more relaxed way. We didn't have any communication over the weekend and I actually didn't miss it much and I didn't think much about her. We had an interesting and stimulating conversation as usual, and then out of the blue, she asked where I thought this was going. I was taken aback because it came seemingly out of nowhere. So I didn't really know what to answer. I said that I enjoyed her company quite a lot. She said the same thing, but then went on saying that she didn't really feel any spark and saw me more as a friend. She felt sorry for having to say this. I said that I understood and that it was perfectly fine. I even said that I felt sort of the same way. I still like her, but I didn't feel as strong an attraction as I did during the first date. She wasn't sure herself, and this is why she felt like meeting me one more time in order to be sure. Like in previous times under similar circumstances with other people, she said that I was a very interesting person with many good qualities that she is looking for, and feels sorry that she can't really control her feelings and didn't feel any more attraction. Yep, just like with the previous one a month! Except that things went a lot further the last time.
I feel nowhere as crushed as last time, because I didn't feel as much attraction for this woman, but my feelings for her were still a lot more positive than neutral. I'm still left with the same kind of feeling: that possible romantic partners see many qualities in me, but don't feel any (lasting) attraction for me. Which is something that again reinforces my inner belief: I have something lacking. Perhaps it's the typical AP thing. Secure people (or anyone with reasonable self-esteem) wouldn't think too much about it and wouldn't worry about lacking something, because they have self-love. But since I rely way too much on external validation, each rejection confirms my inner belief.
The funny thing is that I didn't think about her own perceived attachment this evening. If anything else, she appeared to be a lot more secure than I first imagined, with quite a lot of self-confidence.
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Post by Jaeger on Feb 20, 2018 19:15:05 GMT
I'm still left with the same kind of feeling: that possible romantic partners see many qualities in me, but don't feel any (lasting) attraction for me. Which is something that again reinforces my inner belief: I have something lacking. Well, you know, I really don't like pasta very much. You could serve me the best plate of pasta in the world and I still wouldn't be that interested. Sushi or Thai food, on the other hand, those I love! Does that mean that pasta is inherently unlovable, not good enough or lacking something? Or does it just mean that the best plate of pasta in the world is a better fit for someone who really likes pasta? Moral of the story; you can be the best plate of pasta in the world and there are still going to be people who don't like to eat pasta. Now go find your pasta addict!
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Post by alpenglow on Feb 20, 2018 19:22:45 GMT
I sort of knew that you would answer somnething along these lines, hehe. But it makes sense of course, on a rational level. The emotional level can't seem to agree unfortunately, because of so many perceived or real negative experiences of rejection in the past. Classical conditioning at its best. Believe me, I really wish I could truly buy those rational arguments! So that they could convince my feelings and be done with it.
(I was actually eating pasta when I read your reply. But now I wouldn't mind sushi or Thai!!)
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Post by Jaeger on Feb 20, 2018 19:24:02 GMT
I sort of knew that you would answer somnething along these lines, hehe. But it makes sense of course, on a rational level. The emotional level can't seem to agree unfortunately, because of so many perceived or real negative experiences of rejection in the past. Classical conditioning at its best. Believe me, I really wish I could truly buy those rational arguments! So that they could convince my feelings and be done with it. (I was actually eating pasta when I read your reply. But now I wouldn't mind sushi or Thai!!) You're making your pasta feel unlovable and lacking with that sort of talk.
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Post by Jaeger on Feb 20, 2018 19:29:41 GMT
Seriously though, thoughts and feelings are interlinked. Sometimes, you'll need to show yourself that those feelings don't determine reality. Hold them yo the bright light of reality and see if they can stand that test. If so, keep acting on them. If not, you're already on the path to changing them.
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Post by alpenglow on Feb 20, 2018 19:31:04 GMT
Poor pasta, yes, they didn't ask to be treated this badly. At least I ate them!
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Post by Jaeger on Feb 20, 2018 19:36:42 GMT
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Post by alpenglow on Feb 20, 2018 19:37:15 GMT
Seriously though, thoughts and feelings are interlinked. Sometimes, you'll need to show yourself that those feelings don't determine reality. Hold them yo the bright light of reality and see if they can stand that test. If so, keep acting on them. If not, you're already on the path to changing them. Sometimes, I manage it, for lesser stuff. The "not lovable" deep belief/thought though, is extremely resistant. Only positive experiences might be able to affect it. Those that prove me wrong.
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